SCOUTS AND LEADERS (1954-59)
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In 1954, Brian Hodgson resigned as Scout Master and Ian Blake (one of the Scouts who joined the 70th Troop when it first started) took over as Scout Master. This section focuses on the 'Ian Blake era' from 1954-1959. Unfortunately, there is a missing Troop Log for the period March 1955 to February 1957. Although a Fox Patrol Log and the Court of Honour Minutes survive for that specific period, there is still a lack of detail on the Scouting activities and personalities involved.
Bacon, Stanley (Streaker)
Stanley Bacon was in the Troop from 1951 to 1954. He left the Troop at the beginning of March 1954. His Scouting experiences are described in the section covering the 1947-54 era.
Blair, James Scott
Jim Blair was born in Greenock during August 1944, and lived at 95 South Street, Greenock when he was in the Scouts. His parents occupations have not been identified and is not known whether he attended Greenock Academy, although that seems high likely. He was certainly a member of the 70th Wolf Cub Pack and he appears to be present in a picture of the Cub Pack during a Halloween Party.
Jim moved up to the Scouts at some point during 1955. Unfortunately, the Troop log covering March-December 1955 is missing and so it is not possible to pinpoint the exact date when Jim joined the troop.
In October 1956 it was decided to promote Jim to Second of the Kingfisher Patrol with Trevor Jones as his PL. Jim was about 12 at that point, which was a relatively young age for promotion to Second. Despite that, he was considered for promotion to PL in February 1957. In the end, it was decided not to promote him at that time due to his “lack of self-control and lack of years”! Trevor and Jim were PL and Second respectively of the Kingfisher Patrol for the unusually long period of three years from 1956 to 1959. Finally, in September 1959, Jim was promoted to PL of the Fox patrol, with Alastair Cram as his Second. Jim was promoted to Troop Leader on the 1st April 1960 and thus took over as Chairman of the Court of Honour.
Unfortunately, the available records provide no information on how many badges Jim gained when he was in the Troop. However, it is known that Jim gained his Cook, Bookman, Fireman and Equestrian Proficiency Badges amongst armfuls of others. Jim also successfully completed through the Scout Training Scheme earning his Tenderfoot, Second Class and First Class Badges before gaining his Queen Scout’s Badge, which he thinks was awarded to him by Lord Rowallan at Everton.
Jim was an extremely keen camper as a Scout and attended a large number of camps. Jim’s first summer camp was to Tarbert, Loch Fyne in 1956 – one of the wettest camps that the 70th experienced, and which resulted in the Scouts sleeping in a farmer’s barn before returning home early. At the Pitlochry summer camp of 1957, he was in the Leopard Patrol with Trevor Jones as PL. The camp log stated that Jim and Stuart Scott constructed a tree house. In 1958, the summer camp was at Benderloch and Jim was Second of an Otter Patrol. A written account of that camp is in the troop log, but no photos of the camp have been discovered.
Substantial Easter camps were held as well. It is not known whether there was an Easter camp in 1956, but in 1957, Jim attended an Easter Camp held at Roseneath. The log for that camp stated that ‘Jim, of course, had to fall in the water’. However, it is not specified whether this was Jim Blair, Jim Harvey or some other Jim that was present at camp. Jim also attended the Easter Camp held at Blairmore during April 1958. During the camp, he was one of several Scouts who made pancakes on the campfire under the direction of Bob Miller. The Easter Camp of 1959 was also held at Blairmore. However, there was bad weather and Jim was one of the few Scouts who stuck it out through the whole camp. By the time of the Blairmore Easter Camp of 1960, Jim had reached the giddy heights of Troop Leader and led the Bear Patrol. On the Monday, Jim and Bob Miller had a race up to a large rock on the hill to try and push it down, while everyone else played baseball. It was not specified why they wished to do this. After lunch, an expedition to the lead mine up the valley was made, with Bob and Jim carrying out a thorough investigation of the mine for geological samples. Bob ended up with a piece of quartz whereas Jim obtained a good example of a lead oxide. At the junction of the tunnels, Jim also discovered ‘tiger’ tracks (wildcat or fox perhaps). According to the scribe for the day, Bob and Jim emerged from the mine to declare that they had been to Australia. The Scribe wrote that they looked as if they had. On the way back to camp, the S.M. proceeded to drag the TL into a bog such that the S.M. landed face up and the T.L. face down. Back at camp, Jim and John Nisbet made pancakes while the Scouts made apple fritters and chips. For some reason, everyone (except the two cooks) retired for the night without their cocoa and pancakes. Also that evening, Jim phoned home to say that he would not be home till the next morning. Apparently, Jim’s Mum was “thrilled to bits”.
Weekend camps and hikes were rarely recorded in the log books. However, Jim certainly attended one such camp at Everton in April 1959 to pass his Cook’s Proficiency Badge. He also attended a long weekend camp at Invereck in May 1959.
Weekend camps and hikes were rarely recorded in the log books. However, Jim certainly attended one such camp at Everton in April 1959 to pass his Cook’s Proficiency Badge. He also attended a long weekend camp at Invereck in May 1959. As far as hikes are concerned, he completed his First Class Hike with Brian Elliot, but the date and route of the hike are not known.
In terms of competitions Jim was a member of the 70th Patrols that entered the Shannon Cup competitions of June 1957 and 1958, coming second in 1957. In 1960, the 70th entered the Shannon Cup again with Jim in charge of a patrol made up of himself, PL Alastair Cram, PL Thomas Dow, Second Albert Runcie, Alan Conway, John Moore and Michael Nisbet. The patrol spent a weekend at Roseneath prior to the competition as preparation. However, once again, the Cup eluded them.
The available Log Books reveal various other titbits regarding Jim. For example, The Troop Log contained a number of references to Jim at Friday night meetings. For example, it was stated that in March 1957, Jim ‘finally passed his emergencies’ - suggesting that this had been a bit of an obstacle to progress. Another example from May 1959, indicated that volunteers were being sought to help out at a jumble sale being held by the 1st Renfrewshire at Mount Pleasant. The entry then stated that “Ian McFarlane, Bob Miller, B. Elliott, Ken Conway, K. Johnson, Jim Blair and Tom Dhow (Dow) volunteered in the usual manner, you! you! and you!”
In April 1960, Jim was appointed as flagbearer for the Union Jack, presumably for Founders Day parade. A more sombre duty that Jim had to perform was to represent the 70th along with Bob Miller, K. Conway, R. McFarlane and T. Dow at the funeral of Scout James McKindy of the 5th Renfrewshire on the 12th May 1960. James had died at Everton Campsite as a result of jumping or diving into the pool. It is believed that the cold water caused his heart to stop.
Jim’s Scout Master throughout most of his time in the Scout Troop was Ian Blake, and so it was fitting that Jim should attend the farewell social held for J.R. Blake during December 1959 to mark his resignation. A song was composed by the choir and Mrs. Lind to the tune of “Uncle Tom Cobley”. The chorus was as follows
Chorus Our skipper is going to gay Trinidad,
We’re sorry he’s going, it’s really quite sad,
We wish them good luck in his ventures abroad,
Kenneth Johnston, John Doe, Jim Blair, Ronald Lind,
And uncle Bob Miller and all, and uncle Bob Miller and all etc
Communications were maintained with Ian Blake after he had moved to Trinidad. In May 1960, Jim used his tape recorder to record the Troop campfire as part of a taped message sent to J.R. Blake. This merited a mention in the Greenock Telegraph which stated that ‘Scouts had chatted into the microphone’.
It is not stated when exactly Jim resigned as Troop Leader, but it was at some [point between the end of June and August 1960. Jim Blair is included in several photos on the website, such as those from Easter Camps 1957 & 1959, Summer Camp 1957, the farewell social for J.R. Blake, and the troop photo taken in 1960 on McAuley’s Field.
Blake, Ian
John R. Blake was more commonly known as Ian Blake, although log books of the period always refer to him as JRB, J.R. Blake, John R. Blake or Skipper. Ian was one of the founder members of the 70th Scout Troop when it started in the 1930s and he attended the 70th’s early summer camps (see Scouting Personalities 1930-39). He may also have known Victor Clark at that time. However, Ian left the 70th when he was about 14 and there is no evidence of him being involved in Scouting after that until he took over the troop from Brian Hodgson in September 1954.
Ian was an engineer and served as a ship’s engineer in several troop ships during the war. By 1948, he was married with a son (Martin) and was living at 113 Octavia Terrace, then moved to 109 Newark Street at some point during the first half of the 1950s. He was employed in the family engineering business of Blake, Barclay and Co of MacDougall Street,
located beside Cartsdyke railway station. However, the business was bought over in 1957, and this led to Ian and his family being posted to Trinidad in 1959 for a 3-year work contract.
During the 1950s, Ian was an elder in Finnart Church and it is possible that Victor Clark approached him to take over the Troop when it became known that Brian Hodgson was resigning. However, it is not known whether Victor and Ian actually knew each other from their time as Scouts in the 1930s. There was a 4 year age gap between them and it is possible that Ian had left the troop before Victor joined. Therefore, it is equally possible that Ian took the initiative when it became known that a new Scout Master was needed. Regardless, there was a smooth transition period during September 1954 which involved Brian, Ian and Victor. As a result, troop numbers remained stable. Indeed, by November 1954, there were 40 Scouts in the troop, prompting Ian to announce that no further recruits would be accepted. Having said that, it is noticeable that a substantial number of older Scouts resigned towards the end of 1954 and that numbers were probably maintained due to the influx of Cubs from the two Wolf Cub Packs that were in existence at that point . It is also noticeable that the average age of the Troop was relatively low during the first few years of Ian being in charge. Indeed, it is significant that several Scouts were promoted to PL and Second at relatively young ages and remained as PLs and Seconds for 3-4 years.
Ian was fortunate to be supported by a string of JASMs and ASMs who had come through the troop such as David Slater, Bob Miller, Jim Harvey, Sandy Whiteford, Alastair Shearer, John Nisbet and Ken Johnston. It is interesting to note that Ian made a point of asking for the permission of the COH before appointing any junior Assistant Scoutmasters (JASMs). The Court also had to be in agreement with the appointment of Troop Leaders, who were important to the smooth running of the troop. During Ian’s time as SM, the troop leaders were Ian McFarlane (1954-55), Sandy Whiteford (1955-57), John Nisbet (1957-59) and Kenneth Conway (1959-1960).
During Ian’s period as SM, there was a marked increase in the number of Easter and Summer Camps, many of which took place at new venues that were further afield from previous haunts. For example, during Ian Blake's tenure, summer camps were held at Inveraray (1955), Pitlochry (1957), Benderloch (1958), West Loch Tarbert (1959). It seems highly likely that a summer camp was also held in 1956. However, the troop log covering 1956 is missing and so it is not known where that might have taken place. Apart from Pitlochry, these venues were new campsites which the troop had not visited before. Moreover, the Troop would return to those sites in future years – the exception being Inveraray which appears to have been a ‘one off’ despite it being one of the most successful camps in terms of weather. Photographic evidence for the Inveraray and Pitlochry camps is present on the website, as well as written accounts that survive from the camps to Pitlochry, Benderloch and West Loch Tarbert. A number of different campsites were used in West Loch Tarbert over the years, but the first camp was probably inspired by the fact that Ian had family connections with the area, and the family always spent their holidays there. An interesting episode occurred during the 1959 summer camp at West Loch Tarbert. Several of the Scouts had taken bikes and it was common to provide a ‘backie’ to another Scout when visiting Tarbert. On one particular day, a policeman stopped two of the PLs who were providing 'backies' and scolded them, warning them that he would inform their Scoutmaster if he spotted them again. Ten minutes later, Ian appeared riding Martin’s bike with Martin on the back. However, it wasn’t made clear whether this was spotted by the policeman or not.
One of the most impressive aspects of Ian's tenure as Scout Master was the fact that he started organising summer camps as soon as he was in charge, despite having no previous Scouting experience as a Leader. This was made possible by the fact that he could rely on the camping expertise of 'well seasoned' Scouts, such as Douglas Brown, Bob Miller and Sandy Whiteford. Bob Miller was particularly influential as he had been to the Blair Atholl Jamborette and returned home brimming with new ideas of camping techniques. As a result, the summer camps from 1955-1959 set a standard of camping that was to last for the next 40 years with the emphasis on patrol camping and cooking using wood fires. Ian was also particularly keen on the patrols making their own camp gadgets from natural materials - another aspect that lived on long after the Blake era. In terms of camp activities, there was a strong emphasis on pioneering projects. For example, in 1957 the Scouts constructed a road up to an isolated cottage and also erected what was possibly the highest flagpole ever seen at a 70th Summer Camp. At other camps, a skylon flagpole was erected, a tree house was built at Pitlochry, and a raft was built to navigate Loch Fyne. Day hikes were another feature at summer camp. For example, the troop hiked from their campsite to Killiecrankie along the old A9, which was much quieter in those days. Much of that road still exists and it would be just about feasible to follow that route today. Even so, the volume and speed of traffic makes it a far riskier venture than in the 1950s. A standard feature of every summer camp was the church parade on Sunday and the subsequent service. Photographic transparencies were taken at some of the summer camps, but these have not been tracked down and may not have survived.
There were also annual week-long Easter camps which were held more locally at Invereck (1955), Roseneath (1957) and Blairmore (1958 & 1959). An Easter Camp probably took place during 1956, but the records do not cover that period. The troop had already camped at Invereck in 1954, but the Easter camps at Roseneath and Blairmore may well have been the the Troop’s first visit to those campsites. There is relatively little detailed information regarding Easter Camps, although there are log reports covering the 1955 and 1958 Easter camps. From these, it is apparent that Ian only attended Easter camps for a long weekend – presumably due to work commitments - and that he relied on his ASM’s, PLs and TL to run the remaining days in camp. It is also clear that Easter Camps were run in a similar fashion to Summer camps with patrols camping and cooking for themselves over wood fires. One of the written accounts of an Easter camp revealed that Ian may have been keen on telling ghost stories in camp.
Ian would almost certainly have organized weekend camps and hikes, but most of thse were not recorded in the logbooks. Nevertheless, it is known that Ian organized hikes up the Cut, as well as along the “Right of Way” – a well established hike route that was probably used by the 70th from its inception. These hikes provided opportunities to pass various Tenderfoot and Second Class tests such as fire and cooking, as well as play wide games. It seems highly likely that Ian organized these and other hikes each year.
Unfortunately, the log books are rather ‘quiet’ on the various District Competitions entered by the 70th during Ian’s time, but the Troop certainly participated in the Shannon Cup each year and actually proved victorious in 1956, whilst coming second in 1957.
As was customary for the time, Ian insisted on 70th Scouts attending Scout Parades, Scout Owns and Church Services as part of their commitment to the ‘Duty to God’ aspect of the Scout Promise. As well as Scouts Owns at camp, there were two Scouts Owns held in Finnart Church each year on a Sunday evening. At one of these, Ian used visual aids to describe the symbolism behind the Scout badge. He did this by explaining the significance of each component of the badge, then pinning an image of that component onto a board until the complete badge was formed. The Wolf Cubs and Rover Scouts also attended these Scouts Owns and the group would march to and from the service behind the colours. During the service itself, Scouts and Scouters played an active role in terms of readings, prayers and addresses. The Troop also joined the Guides in the annual Armistice Parade and Service to Finnart Church. There is photographic evidence of the Cubs and Scouts forming up for a parade after a service at Finnart Church in June 1955, with Ian visible in one of the photographs. In addition to these events, the troop participated in District Parades and Services - the most important being the annual parade commemorating Founder’s Day. Some parades required only representatives from the Troop, and Ian would ask for volunteers to attend. These included a County Jubilee parade held in Paisley during 1957 and a Commonwealth Youth service also held in 1957.
Another annual duty for all Scouts was Bob-a-Job week during the Easter holidays. In 1957, Ian stated that each Scout should aim for a total of £1 (corresponding to 20 jobs). That would be equivalent to £2.50 in 2021. Other fund raising efforts included jumble sales, either to raise funds for the 70th or to support other organisations such as cancer research. An innovation for 1959 was the sale of Christmas cards. This coincided with Ian’s initiative in starting up a parents’ committee during October 1959 to help coordinate Xmas card sales. The work of that committee would subsequently grow and diversify in the years to come. Ian also encouraged the Scouts to volunteer for public service projects such as can collections for Dr Barnardo’s homes, leaflet deliveries for the UN refugee fund, and leaflet deliveries relating to tuberculosis (TB).
A number of special events occurred during Ian’s ‘reign’, the first being a celebration social evening held in October 1954 to mark the 21st anniversary of the Troop. Ian acted as Chairman for the event which involved parents, Scouts and Scouters, as well as guests Victor Clark, the Rev Stewart and the District Commissioner JJ Swan. The programme included a supper, a game of 20 questions, a signalling display, an investiture and a campfire (presumably indoors). Other social events included whist drives for parents and friends (which also served as a fund raising event) and the annual Xmas Scout dance for the older Scouts. A rather unique District event was a Scout Display at the Rankin Park in May 1957, during which the 70th displayed camp gadgets that the Scouts had prepared in advance – a reflection of one of Ian’s Scouting priorities at summer camp. The gadgets were transported in Ian’s car from Finnart Church to Rankin Park on the Friday night before the event and was described in the logbook as something akin to ‘a moonlight flitting’. Some of the older Scouts camped in the Park overnight as guards, while the rest of the troop participated in a District Parade to the park the following day.
Friday night meetings are the bread and butter of Scouting and the log books provide ample evidence of Ian’s influence. In terms of Scoutcraft, Ian promoted training and testing sessions such that Scouts could progress through their Tenderfoot and Second Class Badges. He also introduced a new procedure at Patrol Corners where a Scouter would visit each patrol and give instruction on various badges. On one occasion, Ian passed Cameron Lyall on cooking, which involved making porridge, and scrambled egg on toast. Ian judged the egg as excellent, but was not so complimentary about the porridge. Ian also interviewed any boy who had completed his Tenderfoot badge to ensure that he both knew and understood the Scout Law and Promise before investing him as a Scout. In addition to badge work, Ian ran instruction sessions for the whole troop on useful Scouting skills such as how to make a sleeping bag, a leather sheath for a knife, or a Turk’s Head woggle. Stunts were another way in which Scouting skills could be promoted. At one meeting, Ian challenged the patrols to tie a square lashing and a diagonal lashing. The Troop Scribe wrote, “After these shock tactics, the Scouters allowed us to go home”.
Games were integral to any Troop meeting and were thoroughly enjoyed, especially if they were competitive and ‘violent’ – an aspect that is reflected in both troop and patrol logs. Some games were played almost every Friday night meeting. British Bulldog was one of these and could prove unnerving to anyone visiting the troop. For example, in January 1957, the Scouts were ‘piling onto’ one of the bigger Scouts that had been captured and brought to the floor when the minister walked in. Ian immediately stopped the game and started Port and Starboard instead. The ‘pile on’ perhaps needs to be explained. Once a bigger Scout was brought to the floor by those brave enough to tackle him, the younger Scouts, who would normally be keeping their distance at this stage of the game (if they were sensible), would take that as a signal to pile in on top of the captured victim. This, of course, made it well nigh impossible to lift the victim off the floor, but was considered great fun. On one occasion, Ian commented, “This is a game where you try to lift the boys up, not sit on them.”
Occasionally, a ‘new’ game was introduced, although it is not always clear whether the game was completely new or had not been played for some time. One example occurred in November 1956 when Ian got the troop to line up in two teams at opposite walls of the hall, then number off. He then threw a shoe in the centre of the hall and called a number. The corresponding numbers from each side then tried to get the shoe back to their wall. Ian introduced a variation on this theme in January 1957, in which the combatants had to place one bottle on top of another before they could grab the shoe and return to their team. In March 1958, Ian introduced another game where the troop stood in a circle around a Scouter who swung a gym shoe tied to a piece of sisal. The Scouts had to jump over this and were out the game if they failed. This was later called ‘Swing the Sandshoe’ and proved highly popular for many years to come. Whether it was an entirely new game in 1958 cannot be proven one way or the other, but it was certainly the first time that it was mentioned in the available records. Wide Games were played outdoors when the weather was good. Usually this involved heading up the Lyle Hill to a suitable field. One wide game involved each patrol defending an atomic station from an attack by spies (other patrols) whilst attempting to capture opposition stations. During the game, each Scout wore a piece of wool round his arm and if that was broken, the Scout lost a life. However, if the victim went to Ian and correctly answered a question on Scouting, he would be resuscitated by receiving another piece of wool. It is not known whether this was the first time that ‘wool lives’ were introduced to the Troop, but the idea certainly persisted well beyond the Blake era.
Indoor Campfires also took place during the Blake era. At some of these, Ian accompanied the singing with his banjo and occasionally played a very good solo. The Duty patrol was responsible for devising the campfire programme, but this was subject to Ian’s approval and he was not averse to scoring some items out. As well as campfire songs, there were various troop yells and it is possible that Patrols might have put on patrol stunts.
Ian was a popular Scout Master, and there is one occasion when the troop made a point of celebrating his birthday (twice in the same month). However, he was not afraid to crack down on discipline if that was deemed necessary. For example, he occasionally gave the troop a stern talk on discipline and reminded everyone that miscreants could be brought before the Court of Honour and even thrown out the troop for persistant bad behaviour. He also tightened up on inspections and ensured that points would be lost for untidy uniforms, scruffy scarves, grubby lanyards or squint belts. Good attendance was another of Ian’s priorities and he announced that if a boy was absent for two successive weeks without good reason, he would be asked to hand in his badges and leave the troop. To quote Ian, he was “not carrying any passengers or having any non-attendant members.” Throughout his period as Scout Master, Ian ensured that standards did not drop, and that the troop remained healthy in numbers and attitude.
Ian regularly monitored the troop and patrol log books to ensure that they provided detailed accounts of Troop nights and other Scouting activities. If standards of reporting dropped, he was not slow to provide comments such as ‘A lot more happens than you have put down’ or ‘Bring your log up-to-date now.’ On the other hand, he provided praise when merited. For example, he complimented Ken Conway’s writing up of the troop log during April 1959. The Troop Logs that survived from Ian’s era are now a valuable insight into 70th Scouting during 1954-1959.
Ian resigned as Scout Master in December 1959, as he was moving to Port of Spain, Trinidad ona three-year business contract. The affection and respect with which he was held were reflected in a farewell social held at the beginning of December that involved parents and Scouts (add link). The night started off with a beetle drive, followed by entertainment provided by the Scouts. Ian was presented with a silver cigarette case engraved with the Scout badge, while a silver bonbon case and box of chocolates were presented to Mrs. Blake (add link). A special song was composed and sung by the Scout choir to the tune of “Uncle Tom Cobley” which included the following chorus.
“Our skipper is going to gay Trinidad,
We’re sorry he’s going, it’s really quite sad,
We wish them good luck in his ventures abroad,
Kenneth Johnston, John Doe, Jim Blair, Ronald Lind,
And uncle Bob Miller and all, and uncle Bob Miller and all etc”
On Sunday 6th December, Ian led his final parade and Scouts Own with the 70th, then on the 11th December, he handed over the role of Scout Master to Bob Millar. However, the story does not end there. In April 1960, the Scouts posted a recorded tape to Ian in Trinidad. Ian’s replies were then distributed to the Scouts the following month. Another troop tape was then recorded and posted out, which attracted the attention of the Greenock Telegraph. Ian responded in kind and his tape was played to Scouts and parents in September 1960. The troop then sent out further taped messages at Halloween and Xmas. Further communications may well have occurred, because at the end of Ian’s three year stint in Trinidad, he returned to Greenock and visited the troop in May 1963. Billy Phillips (Troop Scribe) wrote “Tonight, JR Blake, our former SM, was here and we were all extra pleased to see him. He said of me ‘the same old Wiffil but bigger’ “. Clearly, Ian commanded strong loyalty from his Scouts and he set a strong foundation for the future. Earlier, it was stated that the troop was at its maximum capacity of 40 Scouts when Ian started as Scout Master. Six months after his resignation, there were still 40 Scouts in the troop.
Ian died at a comparatively young age and a plaque commemorating him was placed in the entrance hall of the current 70th Scout HQ. So far, it is the only commemorative plaque to have been placed there. It is also worth mentioning that Ian’s departure in 1959 severed the last personal link with the original Troop of the 1930s.
Photographs of Ian during his period as Scout Master are present on the website. The photographs relate to Easter camps 1955, 1957 and 1959, Summer camps 1955 & 1957, a church parade in 1955, and Ian’s farewell social held in December 1959.
Blake, Martin
Martin’s full name was Ian Martin Blake and he was born during 1948. Martin was Ian Blake’s son and the family lived at 113 Octavia Terrace, then moved to 109 Newark Street at some point during the first half of the 1950s. Martin’s father was employed in the family engineering business of Blake, Barclay and Co of MacDougall Street, located beside Cartsdyke railway station. However, the business was bought over in 1957, and this led to Ian and his family being posted to Trinidad in 1959 for a 3-year work contract.
Martin joined the 70th Wolf Cub Pack and was probably the only 70th Wolf Cub to attend two full Scout summer camps - Benderloch in 1958 and West Loch Tarbert in 1959. At the latter camp, he camped in a hike tent with his cousin Ronald
Blake and the two of them were dubbed the ‘Midge Patrol’ as they were small and irritating! In November 1959, Martin moved up to the Scout troop. However, he was only in the troop for about a month as the family had to leave for Trinidad at the end of December 1959. Martin left Scouting at that point. The family returned to Greenock in 1963, and Martin is now living in Inverness. He now owns the presentation cigarette case that was presented to his father by the troop and provided photographs of it for the website. A photograph of Martin in Scout uniform was taken at the farewell social organized for his father on the 6th December 1959.
Blake, Mrs.
Mrs. Blake was Ian Blake’s wife and Martin Blake's mother. She attended a Senior Scout dance along with Ian Blake during December 1954, and was also present at Ian’s farewell social in December 1959. On that occasion, she was presented with a silver bonbon dish and a box of chocolates. A photograph of the Blake family was also taken on that occasion and is included on the website.
Blake, Ronald
Ronald Blake was Ian Blake’s nephew and the son of Alastair Blake (Ian’s older brother). The family loved in Moorfoot Road, Gourock. Martin and Ronnie had Grandparents living at Maryfield, Pier Road, Tarbert and they used to spend most of their summer holidays there, ‘coming and going by steamer at various times.’ Although Ronald was not in the 70th Cubs or the Scouts, he attended the 1959 summer camp at West Loch Tarbert along with Martin. The pair of them camped in a Pal-o-Mine hike tent and were dubbed the "Midge Patrol' because they were small and ittitating. Ronald was identified as ‘Ronnie’ in a sketch map of the campsite provided in the Rattlesnake Patrol Log.
Boyd, C.
Very little is known about C. Boyd, other than that he was invested during April 1957 and was a member of the Kingfisher patrol. W. McGregor was also invested that night which might suggest that both boys were in the same year at school. It is presumed that C. Boyd (his Christian name is unknown) left the troop fairly soon after being invested.
Brown, Douglas
Douglas Brown’s experiences as Scout, PL and TL are described in the Personalities section covering 1947-54 (add link). In this section, his experiences as an ASM are described. At the beginning of September 1954, Bob Miller and Douglas Brown resigned as PLs to become acting Assistant Scout Masters and played an important role in the smooth transition from Brian Hodgson to Ian Blake as Scout Master. Douglas also remained a member of the Court of Honour as its Treasurer until November 1955. He also participated in its discussions. For example, he queried whether Harry Slater could be retested on his Second Class by someone other than his elder brother. He also raised the issue of the GSMs Cup and what sort of competition would be involved during 1955.
Douglas’s semaphore skills were clearly in great demand during his period as Acting ASM. At the celebratory event held in October 1954 to mark the Troop’s 21st anniversary, Douglas led a signalling display which involved himself and six Scouts. Then in February and October 1955, Douglas was asked to teach the Scouts signalling during patrol corners as the PLs were taking too long do it themselves.
The following extracts from the available records also refer to Douglas.
*In September 1955, Douglas intervened during a wide game. The Fox Patrol log stated that, “After persistent attacks without success, ASM Brown at last came to the rescue of the Curlews and blew up our atomic station.”
*In October 1955, it was reported that ‘Dougie’ gave the Scouts a film on yachts and ships.
*At the end of 1955, Douglas manned a firewood stall at a jumble sale.
*During February 1956, the Court of Honour discussed collecting scrap metal on ‘Brown’s foreshore’. It was decided to discuss this with Douglas Brown at the troop meeting.
At the end of 1955, Douglas resigned from the 70th and, along with Andrew Whiteford, moved to the 1st Renfrewshire Troop as an ASM. Nevertheless, Douglas still maintained ties with the troop and there were occasional joint camps between the 1st and 70th troops. For example, Douglas and Andy took several Scout from the 1st Renfrewshire to a particularly wet summer camp that the 70th held at Tarbert in 1956. Douglas also attended part of the Troop’s Easter Camp held at Roseneath during April 1957, as well as the parade held during October 1958 to mark the troop’s 25th anniversary. During December 1958, he was involved as one of the ‘detectives’ at the troop’s jumble sale and in January 1962, he was reported to be fixing the troop’s trek cart .
On leaving school, Douglas started off working in the family-owned shipyards, but then moved into an academic career by first gaining the necessary qualifications then eventually becoming a highly respected lecturer at the Glasgow Maritime College, so much so that many of his ex students (now in industrial management positions) hired him as a consultant when he eventually resigned from the college. Douglas continues to spend a lot of his time yachting and has provided a substantial amount of background information on the 70th Pack and Troop covering the late 1940s and 1950s. His son, Peter Brown, also joined the 70th to maintain a tradition of Scouting excellence displayed by the Brown family name. Peter will be mentioned in a companion website covering the 70th history from 1966 to the 1990s.
Photographs of Douglas as a Scouter (complete with pipe) are on the website for the Roseneath Easter Camp of 1957.
Brown, Mr.
Mr. Brown was the father of George and Douglas Brown, both of whom served as 70th Troop Leaders. He donated £2 to the Scouts following the celebratory event held to mark the Troop’s 21st anniversary in October 1954.
Burniston, H
Very little is known about H. Burniston other than he was invested in March 1957 at the same time as Albert Runcie. He was also one of the volunteers who went up to Paisley to attend the County Jubilee Parade, held during May 1957. It is not known when he left the Troop.
Campbell, Alasdair
Very little information is known about Alasdair Campbell regarding his date of birth, address, parents, school etc. Similarly, it is not known whether he was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack or not. There is a possibility that he might have been born during 1943 or 1944 as an A. Campbell was identified as last Scout of the Falcon patrol led by Sandy Whiteford in June 1954.
The first definite reference to Alasdair Campbell in the records was in May 1957 when he gained his swimming badge. He then wrote an entry in the Troop Log for Saturday 25th May 1957. Further references to A. Campbell indicate that he was a member of the 70th patrol that came second in the Shannon Cup Competition of 1957. Finally, it is known that an A. Campbell was promoted to Second in January 1958. If all these entries refer to the same Alasdair Campbell, then he was probably promoted to Second when he was about 13 or 14.
Unfortunately, no other information is known about Alasdair, and it is not known when he left the troop or what he did after leaving school.
Campbell, Kenneth
There is no background information regarding Kenneth Campbell and the only thing known about him is that he joined the troop during September 1954 and was a member of the Curlew Patrol led by PL Neville Mort. It is not known when he left the troop or what he did after leaving school.
Clark, Victor J.
During the 1950s, Victor Clark was Scout Master, then Group Scout Master of the 70th. He is believed to have lived at 50 Brougham St at this time. Victor joined the 70th Scouts shortly after its formation in the 1930s (add link) and, although he did not ‘shine’ in terms of promotion or badgework, he clearly had a strong belief in the value of Scouting both to society and the individual. That belief in Scouting was amply shown by his willingness to restart the troop in 1947 after its brief amalgamation with the 59th (add link).
Victor remained as Scout Master until January 1953, then took out a warrant as Group Scout Master once he had handed the Troop over to Brian Hodgson. During his period as GSM, Victor preferred to remain in the background, but he certainly kept an eye on things by making occasional but regular visits to Pack, Troop and the Court of Honour. It was noticeable that Victor attended several troop meetings in a row during September 1954, as well as a Court of Honour meeting in October 1954. This was clearly to do with the transition period in which Ian Blake took over the Troop from Brian Hodgson. No doubt, Victor was present to support Ian during his initial meetings with the Scouts. Victor also stood in for Ian Blake at the occasional Troop meeting if Ian was unable to attend.
Victor could be relied upon to support fund raising projects, special events or ceremonies. For example, he was present with his wife when the troop went up to see ‘Puss and Boots’ at Glasgow’s Theatre Royal in January 1954. By this time, Victor was generally called ‘Group’. Victor also attended the celebration at Finnart Church Hall in October 1954 to mark the 21st anniversary of the troop. During the evening, Victor presented Brian Hodgson with a small token of thanks from the troop following his resignation. This was to be a ‘cheapies book’ with a token in an envelope. However, it is not clear what was meant by a ‘cheapies book’.
In 1957, Victor attended the Troop’s Summer Camp at Pitlochry – the only camp that he is known to have attended during his period as GSM. Victor was photographed at this camp - the last photograph taken of him and the only one showing him at camp. It is not known when Victor resigned as GSM, and it should be noted that there is a ‘blank period’ in the troop records between August 1957 to July 1958. Threfore, it seems likely that he resigned at some point during that period. It is not known whether there was any specific event to mark Victor’s departure from the Group. One would have hoped that there was. Victor had certainly resigned by October 1958 as he was identified as an ex-member of the 70th when he attended a parade marking the 70th’s 25th anniversary.
​There is one postscript worth noting. During a large District Parade to mark the Queen’s Silver Jubilee in 1977, Alastair Cram was leading the 70th Scouts as Scout Leader. As the parade started off, Alastair spotted Victor Clark watching from the pavement as a spectator. Alastair instantly broke ranks and persuaded Victor to march with him at the head of the 70th Group. Alastair later revealed that the 70th owed its existence to Victor Clark. Victor worked at one of the shipyards as a timekeeper and eventually moved to Wales. He later corresponded with the author regarding aspects of the Troop’s history.
Conway, R. Alan
Alan Conway lived at 1 Drums Terrace, Greenock and was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack. He moved up to the Scouts during June 1958, and joined the Fox Patrol. He attended the troop’s 1959 Easter camp at Blairmore where he was awarded his Second Class Badge, and also attended the Troop’s 1959 Summer Camp at Tarbert. In 1959, he was a member of the 70th patrol that was entered for the Shannon Cup competition. A fuller account of Alan’s progress through the Scouts is provided in the section covering the Bob Miller years (1960-66).
George Conway was Alan Conway's younger brother and lived at 1 Drums Terrace, Greenock. George and his mother visited Alan at the Troop’s Easter camp at Blairmore in 1959. It is presumed that George was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack at the time. A full account of George’s progress through the Scouts is provided in the section covering the Bob Miller years (1960-66).
Conway, George
Conway, Kenneth D.
Kenneth’s full name was Kenneth David Conway and he was born in Partick during 1943. Ken was the eldest of three brothers (Ken, Alan and George), all of whom distinguished themselves in the 70th. Ken’s father was a Clyde river pilot and the family lived at 1 Drums Terrace, Greenock when Ken was in the troop. The Conways had an extension built to their house with round windows and the story went around that the windows were meant to represent portholes. It is not known whether this was the true intention or not.
There are no records to show whether Ken was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack or not. If he was, it is likely that he moved up to the Troop in May or June of 1954 at the age of 11. It is not known which patrol he initially joined, but by mid-June 1954, he was in the Falcon patrol with Sandy Whiteford as his PL. During January 1956, Ken was promoted to Second, but it is not known which Patrol he was in at that time. A few months later during October 1956 he was promoted at the young age of 13 to PL of the Seal patrol. By October 1957, Ken was one of the troop’s two flagbearers at parades, John Nisbet being the other. Ken remained as Patrol Leader of the Seal Patrol for almost 4 years. Details of who was in the Seal patrol during that period were not recorded, but Ken‘s Seconds included S. Scott and P. Dry. Ken was promoted to Troop Leader in September 1959, but he resigned in April 1960 and was appointed PL of a Senior patrol that included Trevor Jones, Stuart Scott, Hamish Rankin and Roy McFarlane. At that point, Ken would have been about 17.
With regards to the Scout Training Scheme, it is not known when Ken gained his Tenderfoot, 2nd Class and 1st Class badges. However, he gained his Venturer badge in February 1959, and was then awarded his Queen’s Scout Badge at a Scouts Own in Finnart Church during December 1959. Ken would have gained a substantial number of Proficiency Badges, and these included the Ambulance, Firearms, Meteorologist and Handyman badges.
As far as camping is concerned, Ken attended Summer camps at Inveraray (1955) and Benderloch (1958). At the latter, Ken was PL of an Eagle Patrol. It is possible that a summer camp was held in 1956, which Ken might well have attended. However, no troop records for 1956 have survived. Ken missed the summer camp of 1957 as he was one of four 70th Scouts attending the World Jamboree held at Sutton Coldfield that year. As far as Easter camps were concerned, Ken was PL for one of the patrols at the Blairmore Easter Camps of 1958 and 1959. The 1959 camp was marked by atrocious weather, which resulted in most of the Scouts being sent home early. Ken was only one of 5 Scouts to stay the full course. As a result, he shared the delights of striking camp on the 1st April of all days. Ken and Brian Elliot cleaned all the dixies while the others filled in the latrines. Weekend camps were rarely mentioned in the troop records, but a weekend camp certainly took place at Invereck during May 1959. Ken, R Harvey, and B. Elliot apparently camped independently from the other Scouts. Following the formation of a Senior Patrol in April 1960, it is likely that Patrol members organized their own programme of hikes and camps. For example, in April 1960, Scouts attending the Troop’s Easter camp at Blairmore met Ken, Stuart Scott, and R. Muir at Ardentinny. The threesome were hiking and might have been setting off for Carrick Castle.
During the 1950s, the 70th regularly entered the Shannon Cup Competition. Ken led the patrol that entered in 1958, and was a member of the patrol that entered in 1959. However, it is not known how well eiher patrol performed. Unlike the 1947-1954 era, there is little evidence of the 70th participating in other District competitions. Within the Troop, there was a monthly Patrol Championship which counted towards the Patrol of the Year Award. The Seal Patrol led by Ken did particularly well during the 1958-59 session and were designated as best patrol of the year. Ken was presented with a First Aid kit, and the rest of the patrol were gifted soap boxes. The Seal Patrol was probably pretty near the ‘top of the heap’ during the 1959-60 session. For example, they were second in the monthly competition for January 1960.
As Ken was one of the Troop’s flagbearers, it is likely that he attended most if not all of the 70th’s parades during the late 1950s. These included parades associated with the two 70th Scouts Owns held at Finnart Church each year. One of these parades involved meeting at Glen Park then parading to Finnart Church (possibly via Union St., Newark St and Madeira St) with a colour party at the front made up of John Nisbet and Ken Conway carrying the flags and Ken Johnson as escort. After the service and the parade back from church, Ian Blake praised the flag party who had ‘acquitted themselves well’. There was also the annual armistice parade which probably involved each Group parading to their own Church. Regarding District Parades, the most important one was the annual Founders Day parade held close to St. Georges Day. Other District parades took place for different reasons and it is known that one took place in October 1957, as Ian Blake took John Nesbit and Ken along to the Orangefield Church for a flag practice. Occasionally, there were ‘special’ parades where volunteers were asked to represent the 70th. For example, Ken Conway was one of 5 volunteers to travel up to Glasgow in May 1957 to attend the County Jubilee Parade in Paisley. On another occasion, Ken volunteered to be one of the 70th’s representatives at the Seafarers service in the mid Kirk during April 1959. There were several other occasions when Ian Blake asked for volunteers from his Scouts. For example, in May 1959, Ken was one of the Scouts who volunteered to help out at a jumble sale being held by the 1st Scout Group at Mount Pleasant, although the troop Scribe did add that ‘volunteers’ were chosen “in the usual manner, you! you! and you!” One of the more sombre duties that Ken performed was to act as one of the 70th representatives at the funeral of Scout James McKindy of the 5th Renfrewshire in May 1960. James had died at Everton campsite after jumping or diving into the Everton swimming pool. Apparently the cold water caused his heart to stop and he could not be resuscitated. The event was a huge shock for the whole District.
The available troop, patrol and Court of Honour records mention Ken several times. The following are examples.
*During December 1957, the campfire programme was provided “by courtesy of Mr. Conway and co. of the Seal patrol”. However, it was also noted that several items in the programme had been “scored out by Skipper.”
*In May 1958, the troop played baseball in McAauley’s field with the two teams being picked by K. Conway and John Nisbet. After playing a game, the Scouters took on the whole troop. The result was not revealed.
*During the 1950s and 1960s, there was an annual Scout dance that may have involved the Finnart Guides. In January 1960, Ken was tasked with providing 7 dozen cakes.
*About the same time, Ken was involved in preparing a list of Scouting books to purchase for the Troop library.
In October 1958, Ken was appointed troop scribe and remained so until he resigned as Troop Leader in April 1960. In one of his entries, he revealed that, “A candle was presented for future investitures by me.” One suspects that there might have been some kind of story behind that, but it is not known what. On another occasion (June 1959), Ken wrote that “a game of British Bulldog was played at which the author was ducked by the Scouters. However, a rebellion was soon organized by the PLs, but owing to lack of cooperation, the mutiny was soon quelled and bitter reprisals took place.”
By April 1959, Ken would have been about 16, and he started attending a cadet Scouters Course along with TL Nisbet and PLs Johnston and Jones. It is not known exactly when Ken left the 70th, but it might have been the summer of 1960. Having left the 70th, Ken became a Scout Master of another Troop. Ken met the author at Paisley University when early research was being carried on the Troop’s history.
It is not yet known what Kenneth did after leaving school.
A number of photographs on the website include Ken Conway such as photos taken at the troop’s summer camp of 1955, and the Easter camp of 1959.
Conway, Mr. & Mrs.
Mr. and Mrs. Conway lived at 1 Drums Terrace, Greenock with their three sons, Ken, Alan and George – all of whom joined the 70th. Mr. Conway was a Clyde river pilot, and the Conways had an extension to their house with round windows that many believe were meant to represent portholes. However, it is not known whether this was the true intention or not. Mr. Conway provided help for a Jumble sale held by the troop on Sat. 6th December 1958. In the morning, jumble was transferred from Finnart Church to the location for the jumble sale using a coal lorry and Mr. Conway’s car. Two journeys were required. The Jumble Sale was held in the afternoon and it is believed that Mr. Conway also helped with that.
Mrs. Conway is first mentioned in the troop records as visiting Alan at the troop’s 1959 Easter Camp at Blairmore (with George in tow). They arrived in time for campfire, where they were treated to pancakes made by Eccles (Bob Miller) and cocoa made by ‘Bean’. Mrs. Conway played a more active role in the 70th as a member of the Parents Committee. The troop log contains very little information about this, other than an entry for September 1960 when it was decided that the 1959-60 committee should be re-elected for 1960–61. The committee consisted of Messrs. Lind, Cram, and W. Fraser, as well as Mrs. Johnston, Fraser, and Conway.
Cook, Gordon
A Gordon Cook was invested on the 18th February 1955. However, there is no further mention of him in the available records, and it is not known whether he was related to John Cook and Neil Cook.
Cook, Neill Ford F.
Neill’s full name was Neill Ford F Cook and he was born in Gourock during 1939. Neill was a member of the 70th’s Wolf Cub Pack and joined the troop where he rose to become Patrol Leader of the Seagull Patrol during 1954, as well as Troop Librarian. A more detailed description of Neill’s period in the Scouts is provided in the section covering 1947-54. Here, a summary is provided of some of the references made to Neill between 1954 and 1956. For example, in 1954, Neill won the Coronation Cup for Best Scout of the Year (jointly with Ian McFarlane) having gained 14 proficiency badges. Considering the fact that Neill remained in the Troop until January 1956, it would be interesting to know whether he gained his Queen Scouts Badge. Unfortunately, records are sparse for 1955
and 1956 and so it is not possible to speculate one way or another.
In 1954, Neil attended a weekend camp and Easter Camp at Invereck. He also attended a special church parade on Sun 10th Oct 1954 to celebrate the troop’s coming-of-age. During the service, Neill gave a reading from Phillippians IV 4-13. Previous to that on the 8th October 1954, there was a special event to celebrate the Troop’s 21st anniversary, during which Neill was part of a hand-picked patrol tasked with breaking the flag at the start of the evening. In addition he was one of 6 Scouts providing a display of semaphore. In December 1954, Neil was one of the PLs who organised a whist drive for parents and friends. Neil was also mentioned several times in the Court of Honour Minutes covering 1954. For example, on one occasion, he made a request that troop meeting should finish earlier at 9.30pm. On another occarion in September 1955, Neill suggested that the troop boxes needed to be tidied up, and in November 1955, he and Sandy Whiteford took charge of the clothes stalls and rags at a forthcoming jumble sale.
Neill resigned from the 70th during January 1956 when he would have been 16 or 17. On leaving school, he completed an engineering degree at Glasgow then worked at IBM. He remained with IBM and eventually retired when he was 53.
A number of photos on the website include Neill, such as a photo of the football team taken in 1953, the troop photo of 1953, and a camp at Sandbank in 1954.
Cram, Alistair
Alastair Cram is a key figure in the history of the 70th Renfrewshire Group, having served as Wolf Cub, Boy Scout, Assistant Scout Master and Scout Leader for over three decades from the 1950s to the 1980s. He was a member of the 70th Wolf Cub pack during the 1950s and there is a photograph of him as a Wolf Cub taken round about 1952 or 1953 when Betty Neilson was the Akela. It is thought that he moved up to the Troop in 1956 where he rose through the ranks and eventually became troop leader and ASM during the 1960s. Alastair is covered in greater detail in the section covering the Bob Miller years. As far as the 1950s were concerned, Alistair attended the Troop's summer camps at Pitlochry (1957), Benderloch (1958) and West Loch Trabert (1959).
Crawford, George Gatherer
George Crawford’s full name was George Gatherer Crawford and he was born in Greenock West during 1936. A full description of George’s Scouting with the 70th is provided in the section covering 1947-1954. He may well have been one of the Scouts that joined the 70th when it was restarted in 1947, and he rose through the ranks to become Patrol Leader of the Curlew Patrol. Although George left the Troop in 1952, he registered as a Rover Scout with the 70th and was still with the Rovers during 1955. It is not known whether the 70th’s Rover Crew were particularly active, but it is known that they were on hand to support the Troop at fund raising events and
parades. For example, George gave one of the prayers at a 70th Scouts Own held in Finnart Church in January 1955. He also helped out at a Troop Jumble Sale in November 1955 where he supervised a bookstall along with J. Harvey.
Tommy’s name was often misspelt as ‘Dhow’ or ‘Dhow’ in various log books. It is thought that Tommy Dow’s full name was Thomas Rodger J. Dow and that he was born in Greenock West during 1944. His father was the Rev. James L. Dow of Cartsburn Augustine Church. The Rev. Dow both wrote and acted in plays and was a member of one of the Greenock local dramatic societies. He eventually moved to take over the Lochranza Church in Arran during the mid 1960s. To date, it is not known where Tommy lived when he was in the Scouts, or whether he was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack Cub pack. There is evidence to suggest that he joined the 70th Troop in May 1958 and was a member of the Kingfisher Patrol. If so, he must have transferred from another Troop as he gained his First Class Badge in April 1959 – less than a year later. On the other hand, he was recorded as attending the Troop’s 1957 summer camp at
Dow, Tommy
Pitlochry. One possible explanation for that would be that he attended as a guest if he was particularly friendly with any of the 70th Scouts attending. Tommy was promoted to Second of the Seal Patrol in September 1959, with Ken Conway as his Patrol Leader. Then in April 1960, Tommy was promoted to Patrol Leader of the Kingfisher Patrol with Alastair Robb as his Second. He was also appointed as the Court of Honour Scribe.
With respect to Tommy’s progress through the Scout Training Scheme, it is not known whether he progressed beyond the First Class Badge to the Queen’s Scout Badge. It is also not known how many proficiency badges he gained, other than the Cook, Bookman and Speaker badges - all gained in 1959.
Tommy was clearly a keen camper. As well as attending the 1957 summer camp at Pitlochry, he attended summer camps at Benderloch (1958) and West Loch Tarbert (1959 & 1960). Surviving log books from the 1959 camp indicate that Tommy was regularly the last person out of his pit in the morning, and that he was one of the Scouts stopped by the police for giving another a Scout a ‘backie’ on his bike when cycling into Tarbert . Tommy also managed to fall through a hole and get stuck in the wooden plank bridge at camp. As far as Easter camps are concerned he attended the 1959 camp at Blairmore, during which he fell in a burn when swinging on a rope (much to amusement of everyone watching). According to the Troop Scribe, Tommy “very cleverly fell into the burn. He was absolutely soaked from the knees down (he fell in headfirst).” Falling in the burn probably made little difference as this camp was one of the wettest camps ever experienced by the 70th, so much so that most of the Scouts were sent home early. Tommy was only one of five Scouts to see out the whole of the camp. As his reward, he got to help the others strike camp and fill in the latrines on the 1st April. Undeterred, Tommy attended the Blairmore Easter Camp of 1960. During this camp, the latrines were christened ‘Jasper’ after Tommy’s dog, which was the first to use them. Weekend camps are rarely mentioned in the logbooks, but a weekend camp held at Invereck in May 1959 was one exception and included Tommy. Another weekend camp may have occurred during April 1959 when Tommy Dow and Jim Blair were at Everton tackling their Cook Proficiency Badge. Finally, Tommy attended a weekend camp at Roseneath in 1960 as preparation for that year’s Shannon Cup. Unfortunately, it is not recorded how well the 70th did on that occasion.
The log books suggest that Tommy was a popular, larger then life character. For example, in September 1958, the Court of Honour decided to organise a dance, which would be organized and run by the SM, PLs and “interested Seconds (+ Tommy Dow who just wouldn’t be left out)”. Tommy ended up organizing the printing of tickets for this event, a task that he may have carried out on several other occasions including the dance held in January 1960. It is possible that Tommy could access printing facilities through his father’s church. In fact, Tommy seemed to be a willing volunteer for virtually every task going. For example, in May 1959, he volunteered to help out at a jumble sale being held by the 1st Renfreshire Scouts at Mount Pleasant. One of the more sobering events that he volunteered to attend was in May 1960 when he was one of the 70th’s representatives at the funeral of Scout James McKindy of the 5th Renfrewshire. James had died at Everton Campsite after diving/jumping into the Everton Swimming pool. It is believed that his heart stopped as a result of entering the cold water so suddenly.
Tommy was part of the ‘Scout choir’ who sang at the Farewell Social for J.R. Blake during December 1959. The Troop Scribe made a point of revealing that Tommy and Ken Johnson did not know the words off by heart and were reading them off a piece of paper on the floor. Tommy also participated in a stunt that was enacted that night, along with P. Dry and N. Frazer.
It is not known when Tommy left the Troop, but it seems likely that he resigned at the end of August 1960, when he would have been 16. It is not known what he did after that, either in terms of Scouting or his career.
Photographs including Tommy Dow are present on website. These relate to the farewell social for J.R. Blake in Dec 1959, Pitlochry summer camp (1958), Blairmore Easter camp (1959), Roseneath camp (1960), the troop photo of 1960, and Tarbert Summer camp (1960).
Dry, Philip
It is believed that Philip’s full name was Philip John S. Dry and that he was born in 1944 or 1945 in another part of the UK. It is not known where Philip lived during his time with the troop or whether he was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack. It is likely that he attended Greenock Academy but that would need to be confirmed.
Philip might have joined the troop during 1955 or 1956, but the Troop records covering that period are missing. However, it is known that he was promoted to Second of the Seal Patrol at the start of September 1959 with Ken Conway as his PL. In April 1960, Alastair Cram was appointed PL of the Seal Patrol with Philip remaining as Second. Philip has been referred to in the log books as ‘Dry’, ‘Philip’, ‘Drip’, ‘Wet’ and ‘Drip Dry’.
Philip’s early progress through the Scout Training scheme is unrecorded, and it is not known when he got invested or gained his Second Class badge. However, he completed his First Class Badge during the 1959 Summer Camp at West Loch Tarbert. It is not known how many proficiency badges he gained or whether he gained the Queen’s Scout Award.
Philip attended Summer Camps at Benderloch (1958) and West Loch Tarbert (1959). He might also have been at the 1960 Summer Camp at West Loch Tarbert, but information on that camp is very scanty and so one cannot be certain. At the 1959 summer camp, he was involved in a water fight between two rowing boats which resulted in his hat diving overboard for safety. He was also involved in various sailings of the Troop’s raft, which was built during the camp.
Philip attended the Troop’s Easter Camp at Blairmore during 1959, where he completed his first class hike with Stuart Scott. It was reported that the hikers returned to camp with “some welcome Sunday papers.” It was also recorded that Philip was highly indignant when he found a weighty stone at the foot of his rucksack. He may also have been at earlier Easter Camps but there is very little information available on these camps.
Weekend camps and hikes rarely got mentioned in the logbooks, but it is known that Philip attended a Fox Patrol camp near Kilcreggan in June 1959. Although, Philip was in the Seal Patrol, he was allowed to join the camp, possibly because he was friendly with Laird McFarlane. During the camp, they went swimming, floated on air beds, and followed trails.
Philip was present at the Farewell Social marking J.R. Blake’s departure during December 1959. As part of the programme, He performed in a stunt that also Tommy Dow and Neil Frazer.
At the beginning of January 1960, Philip Dry and Ian Frazer were appointed as the Troop’s new librarians and were tasked with reviewing and restocking the troop library. This included coming up with a list of prospective books to purchase, which would be reviewed by the COH. Finally, the troop log has a rather cryptic entry for a troop night in November 1958, which stated, “Another exploration of the vaults took place while some of the PLs extracted information from a certain Philip Dry.” The meaning of this is obscure to say the least. However, it is possible that Philip may have been behind various acts of mischief. Indeed, the Court of Honour meeting held on the 22nd June 1960 was interrupted ‘owing to a disturbance on the premises caused by the Seconds’. To quote the COH minutes, “Philip Dry was apprehended and brought before the Court for immediate ‘trial’. He was admonished with a severe reprimand.”
It is not known when Philip left the troop, but it may have been August 1960 when he would have been 15 or 16. It is not known whether he continued in Scouting or what he did in his future career. It is believed that he died in Inverclyde at the age of 74 during 2019.
A number of photographs on the website include Philip Dry, such as those from Easter Camp 1959 and the 1959 Farewell social for J.R. Blake.
Duncan, Alistair
Alistair Duncan’s Scouting career is described more fully in the section covering 1947-1954. It is not known when he left the troop, but it is likely that he was still present at the start of 1954 and resigned during the summer when he would have been about 17. Regardless of when he resigned. Alistair maintained a link with the 70th and was registered as a Rover Scout. As such, he occasionally helped out with the Troop. For example, he helped with a Jumble Sale at the end of 1955 by manning a stall (along with Alistair Shearer) selling Odds and Ends. He also marched with the Group in October 1958 when the 70th held a parade and Church Service for the 70th’s 25th anniversary. Alistair went on to qualify as a shepherd and later ran a bed and breakfast near Stirling.
Dunlop, Rev. A. Ian
Ian Dunlop was a highly respected and effective Scout Master and Group Scout Master for the 70th during the 1930s, until he joined the forces as a chaplain at the start of the Second World War. This is covered in more detail in the section covering Personalities of the Thirties. In October 1954, he provided the sermon at the Church Service held to commemorate the Troop’s 21st anniversary. At the time, Ian was minister of St. Stephen’s Church, Edinburgh.
Dyer, J.
There is no background information regarding J. Dyer or his family. A John Edward Dyer was born in Gourock during 1946, and this might be the same person. However, that remains to be confirmed. If it was John Dyer, it is likely that he joined the troop in 1957. The Kingfisher Patrol Log revealed that he attended Easter Camp at Blairmore in 1958. However, he is not mentioned again, and it is likely that he left the troop at the end of the 1957-58 session. No other information is known.
Elliot, Brian
Brian Elliot was nicknamed ‘Bean’ when he was in the Troop, although the reason for that is not clear. There is currently no information regarding his background. He was probably born in 1944, but his birth is not registered in Scotland and so it is assumed that he was born elsewhere in the UK. Brian’s address in Greenock during the time he was in the Scouts is not known and it is also not known whether he was a pupil at Greenock Academy, although this would appear likely. Brian was in the 70th Wolf Cubs and was probably a Sixer when he was photographed at a Group parade outside Finnart Church during 1955. Brian probably joined the Troop not long after that parade as he was in
the Fox Patrol in September 1955, with Robin McGill as his PL. During the 1955-56 session, the Fox patrol was led by Robin McGill then Ian Kirk, and the patrol won ‘Best Patrol of the Year’. As a result, each member of the patrol was presented with a special woggle in October 1956. Following on from that, there was a Troop reshuffle, which saw Brian being promoted to Second of the Curlew Patrol with Scott Soutar as his Patrol Leader. When Scott resigned in February 1957, Brian was promoted to take his place as Patrol Leader with A. Campbell as his Second. Brian was aged about 13 when he was promoted to Patrol Leader and this is an indication that the troop was relatively young around this period. In September 1958, Brian’s Second was Ritchie Muir, but by April 1959, Ritchie Muir had left and Brian Elliot needed another second. However, it is not recorded who was appointed.
As far as the Scout Training scheme is concerned, Brian passed his Tenderfoot Badge and was invested in October 1955. It is not known when he gained his Second Class Badge, but he gained his First Class Badge in February 1959, at the same time that he gained his Venturer Badge. The latter is usually a stepping stone to the Queen’s Scout Badge, but it is not known whether he gained that or not. There are also no surviving records to show how many proficiency badges he gained although he almost certainly amassed quite a number.
It is not possible to identify all the camps that Brian attended due to missing records, but he certainly attended the 1957 summer camp held at Pitlochry, where he led a very small Woodpecker Patrol made up of himself, I. Miller and Stuart Scott. Brian also led a patrol at the 1958 summer camp in Benderloch. During that camp, a couple of Scouts returned home early, and Brian’s patrol amalgamated with Hamish Rankin’s patrol to form a Duck-billed Platypus patrol which slept in the Bell tent – a very unusual occurrence.
Brian also attended Easter Camps at Roseneath (1957) and Blairmore (1958 & 1959). At the 1958 Blairmore camp, he was one of several Scouts who made pancakes on the campfire. The 1959 camp was one of the wettest camps in the troop’s history and most of the Scouts were sent home early. Brian was only one of 5 campers who stayed the whole course. The others were ASM Bob Miller, PL Ken Conway, Sec. Jim Blair and Tommy Dow. As a reward for their perseverance, they got to dismantle the camp and Ken Conway and Brian had the added enjoyment of cleaning all the dixies. Appropriately enough, the date was 1st April.
Weekend camps were rarely mentioned in the logbooks. However, an exception was a weekend camp held during May 1959 at Invereck. Brian was one of the seven Scouts camping that weekend. Hikes were also rarely mentioned in the logbooks. However, Brian was present on a Troop hike up the Cut in October 1955 and this is the first recorded outdoor event that Brian may have participated in, as it occurred on the day after his investiture. Brian was also on another Troop hike during November 1955 along ‘The Right of Way’ – a very popular hike route that the 70th probably undertook every year during the 1930s-1960s. Brian passed his fire lighting test on that hike.
As far as competitions are concerned, Brian was a member of the 70th patrols that entered the Shannon Cup in 1957, 1958 and 1959. Getting to Everton in 1957 proved a bit of a challenge in itself. According to the Fox Patrol Log, “The patrol met at 12:45 PM at George Square to get the 1 PM bus to Inverkip. Bus after bus passed and B. Elliot went to phone home for ‘Dad to bring his old bit bus’ to take them to Inverkip. This phone was done against the PLs orders!!! The other four (A. Shearer had gone on alone) went to Hunter Place to get the bus which left at 1:50 PM (approx.). The other three were seen at George Square with ‘Dad’s bus’ but the misunderstanding was settled at Inverkip.” Despite the drama involved in getting to Everton, it all proved worthwhile as the patrol gained a creditable second place to follow up the victory of the previous year.
A one-off event that occurred during May 1957 was a Scout Display held at the Rankin Park, during which the 70th put on a display of typical camp gadgets. On the eve of the display, the Scouts transported the camping equipment to the park. Brian was one of the four Scouts that camped in the park overnight to keep an eye on the stuff.
A Fox Patrol Log covering 1955-59 includes a number of references to Brian. For example, in November 1955, the Patrol lost one point at inspection as Brian’s Scout belt was ‘untidy’. Brian, himself, wrote up the log book during the first half of 1956 and he wrote one entry in March 1956 that reveals how highly he rated his PL - “Robin McGill left Scouts a very unhappy day for us.”
The surviving Troop Logs also mention Brian. For example, in October 1959 the troop scribe wrote, “We had a hot game of British bulldog in which after he was caught, Bean did absolutely nothing but sit on the floor until the last person made his last run.” Another entry on the 1st May 1959, stated that volunteers were requested to help out at a jumble sale being held by the 1st Renfrewshire Scouts at Mount Pleasant. The scribe wrote, “Ian McFarlane, Bob Miller, B. Elliott, Ken Conway, K Johnson, Jim Blair and Tom Dhow (Dow) volunteered in the usual manner, you! you! and you!”
Brian eventually resigned from the troop in January 1960, possibly aged 15 or 16. It is not known whether this was precipitated by the departure of J.R. Blake in December 1959, but it is a possibility as JRB had been Scout Master throughout Brian’s years in the troop. Curiously, it appears that he asked whether he could attend the Troops’s Easter camp in 1960, but this request was denied. It is not known what Brian did after leaving the 70th or what career he followed.
Photographs showing Brian are present on the website, such as those from a church parade in June 1955, Roseneath Easter Camp 1957, Pitlochry Summer camp 1957, and Blairmore Easter camp 1959.
Ewing, Hamish
Hamish Ewing was one of two Cadet Scouters from the 22nd Renfrewshire, who spent 5 weeks with the 70th in the Spring of 1958 as part of their Cadet Scouters’ course. Gavin Hart was the other.
Fairbairn, Douglas
Birth records suggest that Douglas’ full name was Douglas McKay Fairbairn and that he was born in Gourock during 1948. It is not known where exactly he lived when he was in the Scouts. He was a member of the 70th Wolf Cub pack and moved up to the Troop during November 1959 along with Martin Blake. However, it is not known when he got invested. In March 1960, he participated in a wide game that was organized in the Lyle Park, in which the patrols were challenged to find a hidden wheelbarrow. Douglas succeeded in finding it and getting it to the Scouters unseen. Douglas was still with the Troop in June 1960, but he may well have left during the summer of 1960.
Ferguson, Mr.
Mr. Ferguson was the Assistant County Commissioner in 1954. He visited the Troop during February 1954.
Foot, Mr.
Mr. Foot was Scout Master of a Port Glasgow troop and acted as the examiner for the Shannon Cup Competitions held in 1958, 1959 and 1960. In 1960, three of his ASMs assisted him. A patrol of Port Glasgow Scouts from Mr. Foot’s troop was also participating in the competition that year as practice for the County Flag which was taking place the following week. Mr. Foot was responsible for setting the programme and the challenges. In 1960, he gave the patrols two hours to pitch their tent, light fires etc. However, there was only one small snag. Mr Foot said that a curious disease had hit Everton which meant that everyone’s right arm was paralysed. In other words, the Scouts had to set up camp etc with their right-hands tied behind their backs. Once that was completed, the patrols then made their tea but were also required to cook something else for Mr. Foot. On the Sunday, there were various challenges. For example, in the afternoon, they had to complete three tasks in 45 minutes – namely to make a potato image of Scoutmaster Foot, compose a patrol song to the tune of Davey Crockett, and make a musical instrument.
Forrest, Kerry
A more detailed description of Kerry Forrest is provided in the section covering 1947-54. It is likely that he was still in the troop at the start of 1954, but left in the summer of that year.
Foster, Alvis (1947-2010)
Alvis Foster’s full name was Richard Alvis Foster and he was born in July 1947 as the oldest son of Dr. Arthur Foster, and older brother of Chris Foster. The family lived at Lindores on the corner of Finnart Street and Newark Street. Alvis was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack and moved up to the troop in October 1958. However, it is believed that he left the troop fairly soon after joining. Alvis was a clever man with an aptitude for art and photography, and took up a career in design. There is evidence that Richard was living at 1 Ashburn Gate, Gourock in 1989. But he died in Dunoon during September 2010.
Fraser, Ian
Ian Fraser joined the troop from the Wolf Cub Pack in June 1958. During the 1950s, he attended summer camp at Benderloch (1958), Easter Camp at Blairmore (1959), and was in the 70th patrol that entered the Shannon Cup in 1959. He was promoted to Second in June 1959, only a year after joining the troop. During the 1960s, he rose to become Troop Leader, then ASM. Full details of Ian Fraser’s progress as a Scout and ASM are provided in the section covering 1960-68. A photograph from Blairmore 1959 includes Ian as a Scout. He is also present in Troop and Patrol photographs taken in 1960.
Fraser, Neil
Neil Fraser is also identified as Neil Frazer in the available records. However, very little is known about Neil’s family background, date of birth, or address. A Neil Alexander Fraser was born in Gourock during 1947 and this might the same individual. If so, he might have joined the troop during 1958. However, the first mention of Neil in the available records was in May 1959, which stated that he was to be transferred from the Seagull Patrol to the Curlew Patrol to balance up numbers. Neil also participated in a stunt that was performed during December 1959 at the farewell
social for J.R. Blake. Tommy Dow and Philip Dry were the other two Scouts involved. Unfortunately, no other information has been obtained and it must be presumed that Neil left the troop at some point during 1960. It is not known what he did after leaving Scouts and school. A photograph of Neil Fraser participating in a stunt at the farewell social for J.R. Blake is on the website. He is also present in Troop and Patrol photographs taken in 1960.
Fraser, Peter
Peter’s full name might have been Peter McMillan Fraser. If so, he was born in Gourock during 1947. However, other background information on Peter and his family is currently lacking. Peter was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack and moved up to the Troop in June 1958. Peter attended summer camp at Benderloch (1958). However, he fell ill and it is likely that he returned home early. By April 1960, he was Second of the Falcon patrol with Ian Fraser as his PL. No other information has been found to date and it is not known when Peter left the troop or what he did after school. He is present in Troop and Patrol photographs taken in 1960.
Fraser, Mr.
Mr. Fraser was presumably the father for one of the three Frasers that were present in the troop during the late 1950s. In December 1958, he volunteered to be one of the ‘detectives’ at a jumble sale being run by the troop. Mr. Fraser was also on the Parents Coordinating Committee elected in September 1959 to coordinate the sale and distribution of Christmas cards. The full committee was Mr. Lind, Mr. Cram, Mr. Fraser, Mrs Johnson, Mrs Conway and Mrs Frazer.
Fraser, Mrs.
Mrs. Fraser was presumably the mother for one of the three Frasers that were present in the troop during the late 1950s. Mrs. Fraser was on the Parents coordinating committee that was elected in September 1959 to coordinate the sale and distribution of Christmas cards.
Friedman, David
There are no records of David Friedman being born in Scotland, which implies that he was born elsewhere in the UK or abroad – possibly in 1944. It is also not known where he lived, or whether he attended Greenock Academy. However, it is believed that he might have moved up from the Wolf Cub Pack to the Troop in September 1955. He was certainly recorded as being last Scout of the Fox Patrol in September 1955 with Robin McGill as his PL. By November 1955, David was identified as 2nd Scout in the patrol.
During September and October 1955, David was working towards his Tenderfoot Badge, which he passed towards the end of October and was duly invested. In November 1955 he had started on his Second Class Badge. David participated on a hike along the Cut in October 1955, as well as the hike along the ‘Right of Way’ in November 1955. During the latter hike, he passed his firelighting test. A wide game then ensued with two sides trying to capture each others staff.
Unfortunately, there are no further mentions of David in the available records, suggesting that he had might have moved Patrols. However, there is a blank period from March 1955 to February 1957 due to a missing Troop Log. This means that it is not possible to identify what else David might have done when he was in the Troop or when exactly he left the troop. A David attended the Tarbert Summer Camp of 1959, but his surname was not provided, unfortunately. It is also not known what he did on leaving school.
Fyfe, Sandy
A Sandy Fyfe was identified as one of the Cubs photographed on parade outside Finnart Church during June 1955. This may well be Alexander K. Fyfe who was born in Gourock during 1944. There is no record of him joining the Scout Troop. On the other hand, there is no Troop Log covering the period from March 1955 to February 1957, so it is possible that Sandy could have joined the troop during 1956 and remained in the troop for several months before leaving.
Gatherer, John
It is thought that John Gatherer's full name was John Menzies Gatherer and that he was born in Gourock during 1946. If so, it is likely that he joined the troop during 1957. John was present at the Troop’s summer camp held at Benderloch during 1958. Unfortunately, he was sick during the camp and had to return home early. John was still with the troop in June 1960 as a member of the Falcon patrol. Unfortunately, there are no other references to John Gatherer in the available records and it is possible that he might have left the troop during the second half of 1960. It is believed that John eventually became a Clyde River Pilot, and that his son, James Gatherer, was in the troop during the 1980s. If so, the family emigrated to the USA. John died at a relatively young age due to a viral infection.
Gatherer, Mr.
It is likely that Mr. Gatherer was John Gatherer’s father. During December 1958, Mr. Gatherer was one of the ‘detectives’ at a jumble sale being run by the troop.
Gerrard, David
David Gerrard was the Provost during 1957. In February 1957, he took the salute at the March Past from the troops following a service that was held to mark the beginning of the BP Centenary celebrations. During the service, 90 colours were presented. The Provost was also on hand to take the salute at a Jubilee event in May 1957 when the Troops paraded into the arena at the foot of Drummond Street. Later in the afternoon, the Scouts gathered in the arena and gave three hearty cheers to the Provost. This was followed by flag lowering which was performed by a Scout of the 1st Renfrewshire troop.
Gibson, Marjorie
Marjorie Gibson was in the Girl Guides and became an assistant leader in the 70th Wolf Cub pack when Betty Nelson was Akela. It is thought that Marjorie joined the Pack in 1950. When Betty resigned in 1953, Marjorie took over as Akela. The 70th’s Coronation Brochure 1953 stated that “Marjorie has helped to make our Cubs a bunch of happy, but well disciplined youngsters by her own cheery personality.” She was initially assisted by Miss Una Tosh and Mr Clark Miller. Marjorie was still Akela in October 1954, but may have handed over to Isabel McBride not soon afterwards.
Goodall, R.
Very little is known about R. Goodall, not even his Christian name. He was identified as a member of the Fox Patrol in October 1956, and may have joined in 1955 or 1956. It is also clear that he had passed his Tenderfoot badge and was working towards his Second Class Badge. His PL in October 1956 was John Nisbet. Unfortunately, there are no other references to R. Goodall and it must be assumed that he left the troop at some point during the 1956-57 session.
'Gorum/Goruum'
Gorum or Goruum was the nickname for one of the Scouts, but the identity of that Scout has yet to be determined. An entry in the troop log for November 1959 refers to Gorum/Goruum.
Graham, David
There are no records of David being born in Greenock or Gourock indicating that the family must have moved to the the local area after he was born. However, it is not known where they lived in the local area, and it is not known whether David was a member of the 70th Wolf Cub Pack. Neither is it known when he joined the Troop, although it seems probable that he joined in June 1951 (see the section covering 1947-54 for further details). By March 1954, David was 1st Scout in the Seal Patrol with Andy Whiteford as his PL. Changes to the patrols in June 1954 did not affect David’s positions as 1st Scout but his PL was now Graham White. Very little information is available for the period between March 1955 and Feb 1957 because of a missing logbook, but it is likely that David was promoted to Second at some point between March and
December 1955. In January 1956, he was promoted again, this time to PL of the Seagull Patrol. It is not known who his Second was at that point, but William Harkness became his Second in October 1956. Soon after his promotion to PL, David volunteered to take over the troop library from Neill Cook.
As far as badgework is concerned, David gained his Second Class Badge in December 1953, but it is not known whether he gained his First Class Badge. There is a reasonable probability that he did gain his First Class Badge as that was generally expected of Patrol Leaders, but it is impossible to tell whether he continued on to gain the Queen’s Scout Badge. Similarly, it is not known how many proficiency badges he gained, gained, although he certainly gained the Bookman, Missioner and Jobman Badges during 1954.
The lack of troop records also means that it is not known what hikes or camps David might have participated in. However, those records that have survived reveal that during 1956, the PLs ran a whist drive for parents and friends. David was one of the 3 PLs who attended the event in uniform.
David finally resigned from the troop in February 1957. Assuming that he might have been born in 1940, he would have been about 17. No further information is known about David or what he did in later years.
The Troop and patrol photos of 1952 and 1953 include David Graham. However, no photographs have been found of him as a PL.
Gray, Ronald
Ronald joined the Troop in late 1950 or early 1951 and finally resigned in November 1955 just after being promoted to Second of the Fox patrol. This was because his family was moving to Glasgow. A fuller account of his Scouting career is provided in the section covering the 1947-54 period. Ronald Gray is present in a small number of photographs on the web site, such as a photo taken outside Finnart Church in June 1955 of the Group on parade. He may also be in the troop photograph taken in Dec 1953.
Hamilton, Donald
It is believed that Donald Hamilton joined the troop during 1959 and was allocated to the Seal Patrol. Donald’s progress in the Scouts is covered more fully in the section covering the Bob Miller years (1960-68).
Hardie, Roger
It is thought that Roger’s full name was Roger Campbell Hardie and that he was born in Gourock during 1947. Other than that, no other background information is known. It is very likely that he was a pupil of Greenock Academy, but that remains to be confirmed. Roger was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack, but it is not known for how long. He moved up to the Troop in June 1958 and joined the Kingfisher Patrol. He then gained his Tenderfoot Badge in October 1958, then his Second Class Badge in March 1959.
Roger attended the troop’s Easter Camp to Blairmore in 1959, and was one of very few Scouts to have his Second Class
Badge awarded in Camp. There are no other entries in the available records regarding Roger, suggesting that he left the troop – possibly during the summer of 1959. It is not known whether he left Scouting completely or moved to another troop. Roger was a keen rugby player and the author remembers him refereeing some school games involving Greenock Academy at the Wanderers Playing Fields during the late 1960s/early 1970s. However, it is not known what Roger did after leaving school.
Harkness, William
There is no background information on William Harkness regarding his address, family, date of birth or school. It is also not known whether he was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack. It is likely that he joined the troop in 1954 or 1955 and that he might have had previous Scouting experience as he was considered for promotion to Second in January 1956. He did not succeed on that occasion, but it was decided in October 1956 that he should be promoted to Second of the Seagull Patrol. Curiously, this promotion did not take place until February 1957. There is no record of him being promoted to PL. There are also no records relating to his progress through the Scout Training scheme. However, he certainly gained his Second Class Badge, and it is highly likely that he gained his First Class Badge as he undertook his First Class Hike at the 1958 Easter Camp with A. Nicol. As well as attending the Blairmore Easter Camp in 1958, William was at the Benderloch Summer Camp of 1958.
A logbook entry for a Friday night in April 1956 mentions that William accompanied Sandy Whiteford and Jim Harvey to ‘see about a parade’. This would almost certainly have been the colour party rehearsal for the annual St. George’s Day Parade attended by all local Scout Groups. However, it is odd that William was part of the 70th’s colour party as that usually involved patrol leaders and William had not yet been promoted to Second.
The last mention of William in the available logs was during January 1960 when he was still reported to be the Second of the Seagull Patrol with Ken Conway as PL. He resigned from the troop that month. Curiously, it appears that he subsequently asked to attend the Troop’s Easter camp in 1960. This was not permitted, but the Court of Honour suggested that he be asked if he wanted to rejoin the troop. However, there are no further entries in the troop records to state whether he did or not. It is not known what he did after leaving school. Unfortunately, there appear to be no photographs on file that include William.
Hart, Gavin
Gavin Hart was one of two Cadet Scouters from the 22nd Renfrewshire, who spent 5 weeks visiting the 70th as part of their Cadet Scouters course in the Spring of 1958. Hamish Ewing was the other. In later years, Gavin was to become a much respected Assistant District Commissioner.
Hartley, Roy
There is no background information regarding Roy Hartley in terms of his date of birth, family, address, school etc. It is also not known whether he was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack. It is likely that he joined the Troop in the Autumn of 1953 as he was invested at the end of October 1953. It is not known what patrol he initially joined, but in March 1954, he was listed as being in the Fox Patrol, with Ian McFarlane as his PL. There are no records to show how far Roy progressed through the Scout Training Scheme or how many outdoor activities he attended. However, it is known that he attended a 4-day camp at Everton during August 1954. It is not known when Roy left the troop or what he did after leaving school. He is thought to be present in a photograph taken of the 4-day camp to Everton in 1954.
Harvey, Jim
It is believed that Jim Harvey’s full name was James Hart Harvey and that he was born in Gourock during 1940. Nothing else is known about his background as yet, although he had a younger brother called Robert who also joined the 70th. If the above information is accurate, it suggests that Jim was aged 12 or 13 when he joined the Troop and was probably not in the 70th’s Wolf Cub Pack. Jim joined in February 1953 at the same time as Ian MacKenzie and it is possible that they were school friends. Both Scouts had the rare honour of being mentioned as new Tenderfoots in the ‘Welcome Corner’ of the August 13th edition of “The Scout” – a weekly, national publication that was aimed specifically at Scouts. By the Spring of 1953, Jim was in the Seal Patrol led by Andrew Whiteford. However, it appears that he was transferred to another patrol at the start of the 1953-54 session, as he was no longer
in the Seal patrol by November 1953. Following a reshuffle in March 1954, Jim was transferred to the Falcon Patrol as 1st Scout with Douglas Brown as his PL. Following another reshuffle of the patrols in June 1954, Jim was promoted to Second and returned to the Seal Patrol with Graham White as his PL. During September 1955, there was a large influx of Cubs into the Troop which prompted the formation of a new Patrol. As a result, Jim was promoted to lead the new patrol as PL and decided to call it the Kingfisher Patrol. Ian McKenzie was chosen as his Second. Jim remained PL of the Kingfisher patrol until October 1956, when he resigned. However, he remained on the Court of Honour as a Junior ASM and was still within the Scout age limit when he led a 70th patrol at the Shannon Cup of 1957. By that time, he was probably aged 16 or 17.
Regarding Jim’s progress through the Scout Training Scheme, it is not known when he passed his Tenderfoot Badge and got invested. However, he completed his Second Class Badge in January 1954. He then did his 1st Class Hike during the summer of 1954 and completed his 1st Class badge in February 1955. Unfortunately, it is not known whether he completed his Venturers Badge, Bushman’s Thong or Queen’s Scouts Badge. There are also no surviving records to show how many proficiency badges Jim gained, although the log books do mention that the Weatherman was one of the badges he gained. Related to the training scheme, there was a rather unique event organized by ASM David Slater on Sat 27th Nov 1954, which involved a practical and theoretical pioneering course for PLs and Seconds, and which was attended by Jim. Everyone met at David Slater’s house then took poles, ropes and sisal to a quarry (not identified) to build a trestle and bridge across a stretch of water. The first attempt to do this was not particularly successful “with Second J. Harvey being rather the worse for the attempt”. Theoretical work was covered in the afternoon back at David Slater’s house.
No formal systematic records of camps, hikes and other outdoor activities were kept in the troop records, but the troop and patrol logs occasionally provide information, especially on the longer camps. For example, Jim was reported to be at a four-day camp held at Everton during 1954. This was led by Troop Leader Douglas Brown and was potentially the first time that the Troop had a relatively sustained Summer Camp since Victor Clark had taken over. Jim also attended the summer camp held in Pitlochry (1957), as well as Easter camps at Invereck (1955) and Roseneath (1957). At the Easter Camp, Jim was in an Owl Patrol and had to act as PL for a couple of days as the two PLs allocated to the Patrol were indisposed. This meant that he missed the church service on the Sunday as he was required to stay in in camp to help prepare the dinner. At the Roseneath Camp, Jim was only present for a weekend as a Junior ASM. He was also part of the leader team running the summer camp at Pitlochry in 1957.
As far as competitions are concerned, Jim led the 70th patrol that came a creditable second in the Shannon Cup competition of 1957. On the Sunday, there was a Scouts Own at which Jim provided a reading, after which Jim was summoned to the hut to be told that the next task was to ‘find a good turn or make a model of a bridge in half an hour’.
Scouts Owns and Church Parades were regular events during the Scouting year, although they were not always recorded in the log books. Each year, the 70th held two evening Scout Owns in Finnart Church, with Scouts and Scouters taking an active part in the service. For example, in January 1955, Neil Cook and Jim Harvey read passages from the Bible. Other church parades included the annual Armistice parade and a large District parade held in April. The troop usually paraded to and from church services with flags flying and it was usually the case that two of the Troop’s PLs would be appointed as the Troop’s flagbearers, with another acting as escort. During the 1955-56 session, the colour party consisted of Sandy Whiteford, Jim Harvey and William Harkness.
Fund raising events were arranged infrequently to boost funds. Again, these were not always reported, but one of the bigger fund raising events to be reported was a Jumble Sale held towards the end of 1955. Jumble Sales usually required quite a lot of effort on the part of the Scouts beforehand in order to advertise and collect jumble, while the event itself relied on the support of PLs, Scouters and adult supporters. For example, Jim Harvey and Rover Scout George Crawford took charge of the bookstall at the Jumble Sale in 1955. Another jumble sale appears to have taken place during the first part of 1956, during which Jim was in charge of collecting and selling “rags”. Another popular fund raising idea was to organize a whist drive in the Church Hall and to sell tickets to friends and relatives. This event was organized by the PLs who would be present on the night to help run the event. One example was a whist drive held in March or April 1956 at which Jim Harvey, David Graham and Alistair Shearer were elected to attend in full uniform – possible suggesting that those three were smarter than the other PLs!
A number of special events took place during the 1950s. In October 1954, a social evening was organised to mark the Troop’s 21st anniversary. There was a flagbreak at the beginning, which involved a patrol made up of selected members of the troop, including Jim. Another special event occurred in May 1957, which involved the District putting on a Scout Display at the Rankin Park. The 70th were tasked with displaying typical camp gadgets which were constructed in advance. On the Friday night before the display, the gadgets were transported to the park and the display was set up. Jim acted as one of the four ‘sentries’ who camped overnight to keep guard.
Jim is mentioned in various log books. For example, the Fox Patrol Log had an entry for November 1955 which stated, “The stunt this week was done by J Harvey who gained five points for it.” Unfortunately, no further details were provided on what that involved. A Troop Log entry for May 1957 stated that “Sandy and Jim Harvey started making the rack for camp gear.” This was probably constructed in the Church kitchen as the author recalls troop equipment being stored there on dexion shelving during the mid 1960s. In June 1957, it was revealed that “Jim Harvey brought his gramophone to the troop meeting and played the Jamboree song. The voice of BP had been recorded on the other side.” The World Jamboree was about to be held in the UK that year, with four 70th Scouts taking part. Jim was not one of them though. It was also reported that Jim started off a Troop meeting during December 1957 as Ian Blake could not attend and ASM Bob Miller had been delayed.
Jim wrote up the Seal Patrol Log when he was the patrol’s Second. Once he was promoted to PL in September 1955, he was appointed as Scribe for the Court of Honour Meetings. He then provided clear and concise reports until January 1957 – covering a period that is not covered by the available Troop logs. In his last entry, he referred to a dance that would involve both the Scouts and the Bible Class. Ian Blake had just pointed out that the Scouts would have to behave themselves with the Bible Class being present, whereupon John Nisbet said, “Scouts should remember their manners at dances and not say ‘Are ye fur up’ “. Once, Jim had relinquished the role of Scribe for the Court of Honour, he took on the role of Troop scribe from February-August 1957. This ended an unusual two year period that is not covered by available Troop Logs. It is possible that that no Troop log was written up during the period. However, it does not seem likely that Ian. Blake would have allowed the Troop Log to be neglected for two years. Therefore, it seems more likely that there is a missing troop log which covered the ‘gap period’ and that Jim started off a new log once that log book had been filled up.
There are relatively few photographs of Jim as a Scout other than a couple taken at the Invereck camp of 1955. Photographs taken at the Roseneath camp of 1957 were taken when he was a junior ASM and still eligible to take part in Scout events. Jim eventually became a fully fledged ASM in 1958. This is covered below.
Harvey Jim (ASM)
As stated above, Jim Harvey spent over four years in the Troop rising from Tenderfoot Scout to Patrol Leader of the Kingfisher Patrol and then to Junior Assistant Scout Master. Jim remained a Junior ASM throughout 1957 and into 1958, but by the end of February 1958 he was acknowledged as a fully fledged ASM. In January 1959, the troop log identified the troop Scouters as Scoutmaster J. R. Blake and ASMs J.S. McFarlane, R.K. Millar, J. Harvey, A. Shearer, and S. Whiteford. On the 9th September 1960, the Scouter team was defined as S.M. R.K. Miller, A.S.M. J. Harvey, A.S.M. K. W. Johnston, A.S.M. J. S. McFarlane and A.S.M. J. H. Nisbet.
Jim was part of the leader team at the Invereck Easter Camp of 1958. During the Saturday, Sandy Whiteford and Jim laid a trail in the forest for those who wanted to pass tracking. However, Jim, Sandy Whiteford, and Ian McFarlane could only attend for the weekend and departed after dinner on Sunday to hike into Dunoon in order to catch the boat. Jim was also on the leader team running the Benderloch summer camp (1958). It was reported that Sandy Whiteford and Jim went into Oban for stores on one of the days. It was also stated that Jim and PL Hamish Rankin left the camp over a Tuesday and Wednesday in order to ascend Ben Nevis. It is assumed that they spent the Tuesday travelling to Fort William by public transport then hiked into Glen Nevis to set up camp. They would have then scaled the ‘Ben’ on the Wednesday (probably by the tourist path) and returned to Benderloch ‘just in time to miss tea’. In 1959, Jim was part of a small leader team at the Troop’s Easter Camp at Blairmore. Several photographs have survived from that camp, but none include Jim. During 1959, Jim spent six months in London working for IBM, which is probably why he was not present at the Tarbert summer camp that year.
​Jim was often involved in organizing outdoor wide games. For example, in February 1958, the Scouts arrived at the Church Hall to find a notice in the session room, ordering them to arrive at the greenkeeper’s hut at the Lyle Park for 7:45 PM. On arrival there, the patrols were told that Jim was waiting somewhere to the south-east with further instructions. These required the Patrols to measure the diameter of the indicator at Craig’s top, the height of the Cross of Lorraine and the diameter of the hole of the green on the Greenock Golf Course. On another occasion during March 1960, an unusual wide game was organized that involved the patrols having to scavenge a wheelbarrow and take it to the Lyle Park, whereupon wheelbarrow races were organized. In addition to this, ASMs Ian McFarlane and Jim hid a wheelbarrow in the park and challenged the patrols to find it. The log books also reveal that Jim ran a troop meeting in January 1960 (Bob Millar was absent that night), and that he attended the farewell social night for Ian Blake held during December 1959.
Harvey, Robert
Robert was probably born in Gourock during 1946, and was Jim Hardie’s younger brother by 6 years. It is likely that Roger attended the Greenock Academy, but that cannot be stated with certainty. There is no indication of Robert being in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack, but it is known that he joined the troop in March 1957, along with Ritchie Muir. This might suggest that they were school friends. Robert joined the Seagull Patrol, and in September 1959, he was promoted to Second of the Seagull Patrol with Stewart Scott as his PL. In September 1960, Robert was promoted to Patrol leader of the Seagull with Alan Conway as his Second. However, he left the troop a month later.
Unfortunately the available records provide no information on what progress Robert made through the Scout training programme or how many badges he gained. However, it is reasonably safe to assume that he gained his Second Class Badge. It is less certain that he gained his 1st Class Badge as he left the troop at the age of 14.
As far as camping is concerned, Robert’s first recorded camp was the Pitlochry Summer camp of 1957. Robert also attended the Benderloch summer camp in 1958 with Kenneth Conway as his PL. One of the few weekend camps to be reported in the Troop log was a camp at Invereck in May 1959. At that camp, Robert, K. Conway and B. Elliot were camping independently from the other Scouts present. There is no evidence of Robert attending the Summer camps held in 1959 or 1960, but the information on these camps is incomplete and so one cannot be absolutely certain that he was absent. In terms of competitions, Robert was selected for the 70th patrol entered for the Shannon Cup Competition of 1959. The patrol was led by Trevor Jones and came a creditable second in the competition.
In April 1959, Robert was summoned to face the Court of Honour, where he was reprimanded for poor attendance, and for not earning any money during Bob-a Job Week. It is perhaps significant that two days after this reprimand, Robert was one of the ‘volunteers’ to represent the 70th at a Seafarers Church Service in the Mid Kirk. Despite Robert’s indiscretions, he was still selected for the Shannon Cup team that year and was later promoted.
A special event took place on the 4th December 1959 when a Farewell Social was held for Scout Master Ian Blake. During the evening, Robert was a member of the Scout ‘choir’ that sang a song with words especially composed to suit the occasion.
The Troop Log contains a number of other entries referring to Robert. For example, during March 1960, there was wide game which involved scavenging a wheelbarrow and taking it to the Lyle Park. The troop scribe stated that the Seagulls showed the most initiative with Second R. Harvey (the only member of the Patrol to be present on the night) knocking at the door of the last house on Lyle Road and asking the female occupant for a loan of her wheelbarrow. The female occupant duly obliged. She might have been less willing if she had known that the wheelbarrows were subsequently used for wheelbarrow races.
Robert resigned from the troop during October 1960 about a month after he had been promoted. The troop scribe wrote that he “handed in his resignation for reasons unstated.” It was also noticeable that he resigned 1 week after his brother Jim Harvey resigned. It is not known whether this was mere coincidence or whether the family was moving away from the area. Therefore, it is not really known why Robert resigned or what he did after he left the troop. He would have been about 14 at the time of his resignation.
Robert Harvey is present in some of the photos from the Pitlochry Summer camp (1957), the Farewell social of December 1959, and the troop photo of 1960.
Hilton, Gordon
Very little information is known about Gordon Hilton. The Troop Log of 1950-55 stated that in January 1950 he was Second of the Wolf Patrol with A. Gunn as his Patrol Leader. This implies that he could have been in the Troop for several years. Thus, there is a possibility that Gordon was one of the Scouts who joined the Troop when it was restarted in 1947. Curiously, he is not in any of the photographs taken in 1949. However, these were all taken on the same day and he may have been absent on that occasion. Gordon completed his Second Class Badge in March 1950, but there is no further information about him in the available records. He was not listed in the troop roll of September 1950 and so he probably left the Troop during the summer of that year. It is not known what he did on leaving school.
Jim Harvey was finally ‘forced to give up his Scouting activities’ on the 15th October 1960. However, the reasons for this were not stated. It is not known whether Jim carried on Scouting elsewhere and whether he continued working for IBM in the years to come.
​Photographs on the website showing Jim Harvey as an ASM were taken at Ian Blake’s Farewell social of December 1959, and the Roseneath camp of 1960.
Hodge, Michael
Michael Hodge was in the troop during the period 1958-1962. Full details regarding this are provided in the section covering 1960-66.
A detailed account of Brian Hodgson’s Scouting experiences with the 70th are provided in the section covering 1947-1954. In brief, Brian joined the 70th Scout Troop at some point during the 1940s, having previously been a Scout in Midlothian. He was promoted to Patrol Leader and Troop Leader before gaining his warrant as an Assistant Scout Master. He gained his Wood Badge and was de facto, then actual Scout Master of the Troop during the early 1950s. He played an important role in training 70th Scouts in practical Scouting, and encouraged the troop to camp further afield than Everton – leading to the adoption of Invereck as a venue for Easter and weekend camps. He resigned in September 1954 and handed the Troop over to Ian Blake. The last known contact that Brian had with the troop was when he visited the troop at the beginning of January 1955. On leaving school,
Hodgson, Brian
Brian trained as a teacher and at one point was teaching at an international school in Germany, where he was also the District Commissioner of Scouting. Brian is present in a number of photographs shown on the website, such as a photo of the leaders and PLs taken in the summer of 1953, the Troop photograph taken on the 11th Dec 1953, the weekend camp of March 1954, and the Easter camp held at Invereck in 1954.
Howison, Robert
There are no records of Robert Howison being born in Gourock or Greenock. However, a Robert Linton Howison was born in Hillhead during 1944. If this is the same person, then he may well have joined the Troop during 1955. Unfortunately, there is no troop log covering the period between Mar 1955 and February 1957, so there is no evidence to back this up. Similarly, it is not possible to identify which patrol Robert was in between 1955 and 1957. However, he was promoted to Second of the Fox patrol during December 1957, taking over from Ian Kirk. The PL of the Fox Patrol at that point was John Nisbet. There was quite a delay between Robert’s promotion and him actually receiving his stripe, as that occurred towards the end of
January 1958. John and Robert were still leading the Fox patrol at the start of 1959.
In terms of his progress through the Scout Training Scheme, it is assumed that Robert gained his Second Class Badge at some point during 1956 as he was working towards his 1st Class badge in 1957. He successfully completed the badge in February 1959. It is not known how many proficiency badges he earned during his time in the troop, but they included the Athlete badge received in October 1958.
Unfortunately, it is not possible to identify any camps or hikes that Robert may have participated in during the ‘gap’ years covered in the missing Troop Log. However, he certainly attended Summer Camp at Pitlochry in August 1957, where he was in a Panther patrol with John Nisbet as his PL. He also attended the Blairmore Easter Camp of 1958, where he was once again in a Panther patrol led by John Nisbet. During that camp, he teamed up with John Nisbet to complete his first class hike.
The Fox Patrol Log Book provided a detailed list of how much each member of the patrol earned during Bob a Job week in April 1959, revealing that Robert earned 5/- (equivalent to about £6 in 2021). The total earned by the whole patrol came to £2 – 10 – 6 (equivalent to about £60 in 2021).
​Robert Howison eventually left the Troop in May 1959. It is not known what he did after leaving school. The only photograph of Robert as a Scout is a rather low-quality image from Pitlochry Summer camp (1957).
Inglis, Ian
There are no birth records for an Ian Inglis being born in Greenock or Gourock, so it is assumed that the family moved to the local area after he was born. Other than that. there is currently no background information on Ian or his family. It has been proposed that a photograph taken of the Cub Pack in Fancy Dress at Halloween 1952 or 1953, may include Ian Inglis. There is also an entry in the Troop Log stating that Ian Ingles sang a solo at a Scouts Own at Finnart Church on Sunday, 31st March 1957. However, there is no clear evidence of Ian joining the troop.
Johnston, Ian
Not much is known about Ian Johnston. There are no records of him being born in Greenock or Gourock, and so his family may have moved to the local area after his birth. It is also not known where the family lived in the local area or whether Ian attended Greenock Academy. However, he was certainly a member of the 70th Wolf Cub B Pack and moved up to the troop in April 1954 along with J. Kirk, H. Slater and T. Jones. It is not known which patrol he joined on that night, but a troop reorganization in June 1954 resulted in him being in the Curlew patrol with Neville Mort as his PL. There are no further mentions of Ian in the available
records. However, there is a gap in the troop logs from March 1955 to February 1957. He was present at the 1955 Easter Camp at Invereck but went home after 3 days because he was feeling unwell. He must have left the troop at some point between April 1955 and February 1957. It is not known what he did after leaving school.
Johnson, Kenneth W.
It is thought that Kenneth W. Johnson’s full name was Kenneth William Johnson and that he was born in Ayr during 1942. Kenneth was living in Manor Crescent, Gourock when he was with the 70th. It is likely that he was a pupil of Greenock Academy and a Wolf Cub in the 70th Pack. However that still remains to be confirmed.
The exact date on which Kenneth joined the troop is unknown, but it is likely to have been either side of the summer of 1953, in which case it is highly likely that he joined the Seal Patrol, as he was in that patrol at the beginning of November 1953 with Andy Whiteford as his PL. Kenneth was promoted in January 1956 to Second of the Seagull patrol with David
Graham as his PL. He was then promoted in February 1957 to PL of the Seagull patrol, with William Harkness as his Second. Ken and William were still leading the patrol in January 1959.
In terms of the Scout Training Scheme, Ken completed his Tenderfoot Badge during October 1953 and was invested at the same time as S. Souter, J. Lee and R. Hartley – suggesting that all four were in the same year at school. Unfortunately, it is not known when Ken completed his Second Class, First Class, Venturer or Queen’s Scout Badges. However, he certainly received his Queen’s Scout Badge at the beginning of June 1960. Inevitably, he would also have gained a substantial number of proficiency badges. However, the only ones that have been identified to date are Bookman, Missioner and Jobman badges which he gained in the first half of 1954.
Similarly, a lack of Troop Records covering 1955-57 means that it is impossible to identify all the camps, hikes or outdoor activities that he might have participated in. However, it is known that he was at the Easter camps to Roseneath (1957) and Blairmore (1958). At the latter camp he participated in a pancake making session round the campfire under the direction of ASM R Miller. Ken was also at the Troop Summer camps to Benderloch (1958) and West Loch Tarbert (1959). At the former camp, he led an Otter Patrol with Jim Blair as his Second, and he also led a patrol at West Loch Tarbert. However, the biggest camping event that Kenneth attended was the World Jamboree held at Sutton Coldfield during the summer of 1957. There were 4 representatives from the 70th, the others being Hamish Rankin, Kenneth Conway, and Alastair Shearer. As far as is known, this was the first time that any 70th Scout had participated in a World Jamboree.
As far as competitions were concerned, Kenneth was a member of the 70th patrol that came second in the Shannon Cup of May 1959. There was a short account of the competition in the troop log. Kenny (as he was known at the time) was also involved in another competition in December 1953, in which the Patrols vied with each other to provide a name for a canoe that had been built for the troop. The Seal Patrol discussed this after the troop meeting and came up with ‘Venturer’ which was subsequently adopted as the best name.
At some point after his promotion to PL, Kenneth was chosen as the escort for the two flag bearers at troop parades. At the Remembrance Day Parade of 1957, he escorted flag bearers John Nisbet and Ken Conway, and Ian Blake complimented the colour party for acquitting themselves well.
Junior and Senior Xmas parties were held each year during the 1950s. The senior party focused on dances, whereas the junior party focused on games with ‘no women’ present. Ken was one of 8 Scouts who attended a Junior party in 1953. The other Scouts present were S. Robertson, I. McKenzie, D. McKelvie, R. McGill, S. Souter, J. Miller and J. Lee.
Ken also attended a very special social event on the 4th December 1959 to mark Ian Blake’s imminent resignation as Scout Master. This included a song that had been composed by the Scout ‘choir’ and Mrs. Lind, and was sung to the tune of “Uncle Tom Cobley”. It included the following chorus
“Our skipper is going to gay Trinidad,
We’re sorry he’s going, it’s really quite sad,
We wish them good luck in his ventures abroad,
Kenneth Johnston, John Doe, Jim Blair, Ronald Lind,
And uncle Bob Miller and all, and uncle Bob Miller and all etc”
Ken was one of the five Scouts that sang the song and also accompanied the singing on a banjo. The troop scribe accused Tommy Dow and Ken of reading the words for the song off a piece of paper on the floor.
There are various miscellaneous entries in the log books concerning Ken. For example, he won games of dodge ball during December 1953 and February 1954. This suggests that Ken was pretty athletic, but there are also suggestions that he was rather sensitive in his younger years. In March 1954, Ian Blake told a ‘hair-raising’ story at campfire and the patrol scribe (G. White) added in brackets ‘poor Kenny’. Another hair-raising story was provided the following week and G. White added in brackets ‘I repeat, poor Kenny’.
In another entry, Kenny was identified as one of the ‘volunteers’ helping out at a jumble sale being held by the 1st Renfrewshire Scouts at Mount Pleasant. The Troop Scribe wrote that the Scouts ‘volunteered in the usual manner, you! you! and you’. Finally, it was reported in April 1959 that Ken was one of 4 Scouts who would be starting a Cadet Scouters Course. Kenneth resigned as PL at the beginning of September 1959 to join the ranks of the Scouters as a junior ASM. This is covered in the section covering the Bob Millar years (1960-66).
There are photographs on the website that include Kenneth Johnston as a Scout, including photos taken at J.R. Blake’s farewell social, the troop’s Easter camp at Roseneath (1957), a photo of 70th Scouts chosen to attend the Jamboree, and the Jamboree itself.
Johnston, Mrs.
It is assumed that Mrs. Johnson was Kenneth Johnson’s mother. Mrs. Johnson served on a “Parents coordinating committee” that was formed on the 29th September 1959, with the sole purpose of organizing the sale and distribution of Christmas cards. However, the committee continued to work after that and eventually played a crucial role in the fund raising efforts required to fund the building of a Scout HQ. Mrs. Johnson served on the committee from 1959-1961 and possibly beyond that date.
Jones, Trevor
Trevor Jones was probably born in 1943, but there are no records of him being born in Scotland. Therefore, it is assumed that he was born elsewhere in the UK and that his family moved to the local area after he was born. Several families moved to the Greenock area during the war years and it would be interesting to know whether this was the case for Trevor’s family. It is not known where Trevor lived at the time he was in Scouts or whether he was a pupil at Greenock Academy. However, he was certainly a member of the 70th Wolf Cub Pack B.
Trevor moved up to the Scout Troop in April 1954, along with J. Kirk and H. Slater. All three boys had gained their Leaping Wolf and were probably in the same year at school. It is not known which patrol Trevor first joined. However, following a troop reorganization in June 1954, he was in the Falcon Patrol led by Sandy Whiteford. Trevor was speedily promoted and became Second of the Kingfisher Patrol in November 1955. In October of the following year (1956), he was promoted to PL of the Kingfisher Patrol with Jim Blair as his Second. Trevor’s promotion to PL only took two years and so he would have been about 13 at the time. As a result, he would end up as one of the longest serving PLs in the 70ths history by leading his patrol for close on 4 years. Jim Blair was Trevor’s Second for three of those years, until he was promoted himself to be replaced as Trevor’s Second by Tommy Dow.
During his period as PL, Trevor was Scribe for the Court of Honour from February 1957 to May 1959. He may well have continued that role for several months to come as the COH minutes book for 1952-1959 finishes off with the following plea, “PL Jones would wish it known to the Court of Honour of the 70th Renfrewshire Boy Scout Troop that he requires a new minutes book for the aforesaid Court of Honour for the aforesaid Scout Troop IMMEDIATELY.” It is not known whether his plea fell on deaf ears or not, but the requested new minute book is not amongst the surviving records for the 70th. Trevor’s entries in the surviving COH minutes book have provided very useful in piecing together the history of the troop.
Unfortunately, very little information has been uncovered to date regarding Trevor’s progress through the Scout Training Scheme, or the number of Proficiency badges he gained. However, it is known that he gained his 1st Class Badge in September 1959, and that is Proficiency Badges included the Firelighter and Ambulance Badges.
Similarly, it is not possible to identify all the camps and hikes that Trevor may have participated in, as these are rarely mentioned in the surviving records. However, it is clear that Trevor was an outdoor enthusiast indiciated by the fact that he gained the nickname of Sherpa when he was in the Troop. Trevor attended Summer camps to Inveraray (1955), Pitlochry (1957) and West Loch Tarbert (1959). He may also have attended a very wet summer camp to Tarbert during 1956, when the Scouts had to abandon the tents and shelter in a nearby barn. However, no record of the Scouts attending that camp has been discovered to date. During the Pitlochry camp, Trevor led a patrol called the Leopards, and at West Loch Tarbert (1959), he led a patrol called the Mouse Patrol.
Trevor also attended Easter Camps to Blairmore in 1958 and 1959. He did not attend all of the camp in 1959 and returned to Greenock with Ian Blake, ‘Tweetie’, and R. Weir on the Monday. However, the weather after that was so bad that most of the remaining campers were sent home on the Tuesday. To his eternal credit, Trevor returned to Blairmore on the Wednesday (1st April) with his young brother to help with the clear up. The Scribe wrote, “Trevor accompanied by his young brother came back to assist breaking camp. He also was a fool, although a kind hearted one.” Trevor did not attend the Easter Camp held in 1960, and it is not known whether he attended the Troop’s summer Camp at Tarbert in 1960 as no records of that camp survive.
There is very little information in the available records of the various weekend camps and hikes that would have taken place during Trevor’s time in the Troop. However, there is evidence to show that Trevor was keen on outdoor activities. At the Court of Honour, he canvassed for more camps and outdoor activities, and at one meeting, he complained about “the lack of hiking tents in the troop and the lack of outdoor activities in which boys were interested.” In response to this, “the ‘Boss’ kindly donated his wee, proofing saturated, non-dew proof but absolutely watertight, green, not big enough hike tent. It suffices!” There was a caveat to this generous offer and that was that any patrol damaging the tent had to pay for its repair. At another meeting of the COH in September 1959, Trevor suggested an outdoor programme of events for the coming winter session including walks and hikes at weekends. This was agreed in principle but it was pointed out that many boys would be unable to participate due to school football and rugby.
A rare example of a weekend camp being recorded in the logbooks was one to Invereck during May 1959, with Trevor being one of the participants. The Fox Patrol log also has an interesting entry which stated that Trevor participated in a ‘Kan-U-take it’ event during October 1958. The Kan-U-take it weekends were deliberately planned to be physically demanding and were largely organised by David Chalmers who was a bit of a ‘Guru’ when it came to outdoor activities and equipment. It is rumoured that on one occasion the participants arrived on Blairmore Pier and were immediately challenged to jump into Loch Long.
In terms of competitions, Trevor led a 70th Patrol that came a creditable second in the Shannon Cup competition of 1959.
Church Parades and Scouts Owns were regular occurrences in the Scout programme, and each year there were two 70th Scouts Owns held on a Sunday evening at Finnart Church, a Remembrance Day Parade, and the District St. George’s day parade. All Scouts were expected to attend. For example, Trevor is included in a photograph of the Group forming up for a parade outside Finnart Church in June 1955. Volunteers were often requested to represent the 70th at other parades and Church services. For example, Trevor was one of the volunteers willing to attend a County Jubilee Parade in Paisley in May 1957. Unfortunately, the train suffered a delay on the way up, which meant that they missed the parade.
In terms of social events and visits, there was an annual Xmas dance for older Scouts and a Xmas party for the younger Scouts. Trevor acted as treasurer for one of the dances held during January 1959, and was able to declare that it made an unexpected profit of £2 – 16 – 0d. Trevor was congratulated and unanimously elected treasurer for the next dance. A one-off event that occurred in 1959 was a visit to the submarine HMS Scotsman, which had been launched in 1944. The visit involved representatives from a wide range of schools and youth groups; therefore only four 70th Scouts could go. The four lucky Scouts to be selected included Trevor. Another one-off event was the farewell social that was held on the 4th December 1959 to mark the departure of J.R. Blake and his family to Trinidad. Trevor was elected as “chief photographer” for the social, but, unfortunately, his camera didn’t function very well and so only four pictures turned out. These are shown in the troop log and on the web site. As a postscript, this entry suggests that Trevor was a keen photographer and may well have taken photographs of other 70th events.
Trevor’s accounts of the COH meetings provide some interesting insights into some of the topics that were discussed. For example, during October 1957, it was stated that “patrols should not own more than 12/6 unless saving for equipment. PL Rankin asked what he could do with the money and was told to buy a saw or, like PL Jones of the Kingfishers, to buy books and especially maps as the OS has been revised.” On another occasion in November 1957, Trevor (aged 14) wrote the following, “ASM McFarlane suggested that PL Jones should ‘shut up’ or stop breathing, otherwise, he hinted, PL Jones might get the “boot”. This suggestion was unanimously accepted by all except PL Jones.” Trevor was also in the habit of abstaining from any votes that took place at the COH. However that came to an end in September 1958, when J.R. Blake declared that Trevor “must take an active part in the meetings of the court.” At that same meeting, Trevor complained about books disappearing from patrol boxes, including books from the Kingfisher Patrol Box which were all stamped with “the Kingfisher patrol bird in red indelible ink.” In June 1959 Trevor found himself faced with a unanimous motion by the rest of the Court of Honour which stated ‘hereby boldly, plainly and emphatically’ that ‘PL Trevor “Sherpa” Jones obeys their demands and visits a certain shop with a red and white pole above the door and has something done about the incredible mass of a mess which surmounts his cranium.’
The Fox Patrol Log also included a few interesting entries that referred to Trevor. For example, in October 1958, it was written that “The duty patrol was the Kingfisher and Trevor Jones (PL) made a mess of breaking the flag.” Another entry for April 1959 stated that Trevor Jones was starting a Cadet Scouters Course - the first evidence of Trevor getting a little bit ‘long in the tooth’ at the age of 16 (approx.)! However, it should be noted that it was not until April 1960 that Trevor resigned as PL of the Kingfisher to join a Senior Scout patrol that included K. Conway, S. Scott, H Rankin and Roy McFarlane. Trevor and Ken Conway had been pushing for such a patrol since the beginning of February 1960, but it took some time to persuade Bob Millar to allow it. Unfortunately, there are no surviving records regarding the activities of the patrol or how long it lasted. Similarly, the available records do not specify when Trevor finally left the 70th, but it is assumed that it was during 1960. It is not known whether he continued in Scouting as a leader with another group, or what he did after leaving school.
There are a number of photographs on the website that include Trevor Jones, such as photos from a parade outside Finnart church in 1955, the summer camps of 1955 & 1956, and the Easter camp of 1959.
Jones, ?
On Wednesday 1st of April 1959, Trevor Jones returned to Blairmore Easter Camp to help strike the camp. He was accompanied by his younger brother, but his Christian name was not identified. It is also not known whether Trevor’s brother was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack, and there are no records of him joining the troop.
Kerr, Hugh
Birth records reveal that a Hugh Findlay Kerr was born in Gourock during 1943 and it is possible that this might be the same Hugh Kerr that was in the 70th troop during the mid 1950s. However, no other background information is known. Hugh Kerr was probably a pupil of Greenock Academy, and was certainly a member of the 70th Wolf Cub Pack. He moved up from the Pack to the Troop during March 1954, along with John Nisbet and S. Scott – implying that all three were in the same school year. It is not known which Patrol Hugh entered when he joined the troop, but a troop reshuffle in June 1954 resulted in Hugh being in the Fox patrol with Ian McFarlane as his PL. By June 1955, Stephen Pearce had become PL. A further reshuffle of the patrols took place over the summer and in September 1955 Hugh was 2nd Scout in the Fox Patrol with Robin McGill as PL.
There are very few records for the period covering March 1955-February 1957 and so nothing is known about Hugh’s progress through the Scout Training scheme or how many badges he gained. Similarly, there is no information available regarding camps and hikes that Hugh might have participated in. However, he was a member of a hand-picked patrol of Scouts tasked with breaking the flag at a social evening held on the 1st October 1954 to celebrate the Troop’s 21st anniversary.
It is not known when Hugh resigned from the troop. However, it is known that a Hugh Findlay Kerr born in May 1943 became a clergyman for Ruthrieston South in Aberdeen and was moderator for the Aberdeen and Shetland Presbytery during 1998-1999. He was also a Director during 2002-2005 for a voluntary organisation involved in marriage counseling.
Kirk, Ian
It is not known where or when Ian Kirk was born, but it is probable that he was born in 1943. There is also no background information regarding his parents or his address. It is likely that he attended Greenock Academy, but that is not known for certain. Ian was in Pack B of the 70th Wolf Cubs, meeting on Thursday nights. He gained his Leaping Wolf and moved up to the Troop in April 1954 along with H. Slater and T. Jones to join the Seal Patrol with Andrew Whiteford as his PL. However, in June 1954, he gained a new Patrol Leader in the form of Graham White. Just over a year later in November 1955, Ian was promoted to second of the Fox patrol which is remarkably quick as he would have been about 12 years old at the time. At that point the Fox Patrol ‘s PL was Robin McGill. By October 1956, Robin McGill had resigned and Ian was Acting PL for the
Fox patrol for a short while until John Fraser took over as the new PL. Ian was considered for promotion to PL during February 1957. However, his lack of camping experience counted against him on that occasion. Ian eventually left the troop towards the end of November 1957, aged about 14.
Unfortunately, the available records provide no information on Ian’s progress through the Scout training scheme, apart from the fact that he had gained his Tenderfoot Badge by the start of September 1955. It is probable that he gained his Second Class Badge and he was certainly involved in training other Scouts on Second Class tests when he was the Second of the Fox Patrol.
Ian wrote up the Fox patrol log from October 1955 to January 1956 providing useful information on a period that is poorly covered by available records. He also wrote about hikes that were probably carried out on a regular basis by the troop, but not recorded in the troop log. For example, he identified two Saturday hikes that were organized by Ian Blake. One was a walk up the Cut in October 1955, and the other was a hike across the “Right of Way” in November 1955, which included firelighting and a wide game. The wide game involved two teams trying to capture a staff from each other. During this, Ian wrote about being dragged into a marsh by B. McEwing. Ian also provided useful information on the route followed that day. Another entry from the Fox Patrol logbook revealed that Ian was involved in setting things up for a jumble sale to be held in December 1955.
The same logbook provides a few titbits regarding Ian at troop meetings. In November 1956, he cut his elbow playing a game of ‘ice’ hockey against the Falcon. Ian scored a goal but the patrol lost 4-1. However during February 1957, the Fox patrol got theier revenge and beat the Falcon patrol 5-0 in the patrol game – “thanks mainly to second Ian Kirk”.
The Court of Honour Minutes mention Ian several times and suggest that he could have been a bit of a handful. For example, during October 1957, J.R. Blake insisted on better troop discipline and stated that he had “his eye on Kirk and Tibbles in particular as they are the ringleaders”.
Ian did not attend the Remembrance Day Parade on the 10th November 1957 and it is assumed that he left the troop fairly soon after that. It is not known what he did after leaving Scouts.
The only photograph of Ian Kirk as a Scout involves a parade outside Finnart Church in 1955.
Kit, Arthur
The Fox Patrol log stated that an Arthur Kit joined the Troop on Friday 4th September 1959. However, there were no further references to him in the available troop records. There are also no recorded births in Scotland for an Arthur Kit during the period 1942-1959 and nothing else is known about him.
Lee, Ian
Ian Lee was present in the troop from 1958 to 1960 and was probably born during 1947. However, Birth Records show no records of an Ian Lee being born in Greenock or Gourock at that time, indicating that the family must have moved to the local area after Ian was born. It is not known what Ian’s address was and there is no background information regarding his parents or what they did. Ian was a member of the 70th Wolf Cub Pack and moved up to the troop during October 1958, along with Ronald Russell and Michael Nisbet – indicating that all three were probably in the same year at school. . It is possible that Ian joined the Kingfisher Patrol.
There is very little mention of Ian in the available troop records other than that he broke the flag at the troop meeting on the 6th of November 1959, and was described as being “worse than Gorum!” No further details were provided as to what that meant. Ian was still in the Troop on 10th June of 1960 as a member of the Kingfisher Patrol and had a good attendance record. However, he left the troop at some point during the summer of 1960 as he was not included in the troop rota taken in September 1960. It is not known what he did after leaving Scouts.
Ian is present in the troop photographs taken on MacAuley’s Field in June 1960.
Lee, Jimmy
Jimmy Lee was present in the troop during 1953 and 1954, and possibly longer. It is thought that he might have been born in 1942 or 1943 and there is a record of a James Lee being born in Greenock East during 1943. This may be the same person but confirmation is still needed. There is currently no background information on the family or where they lived at the time. Neither is it known yet whether Jimmy was a pupil at Greenock Academy or a member of the 70th Wolf Cub Pack.
Jimmy was invested into the troop on the 9th Oct 1953, which suggests that he joined the troop in the spring or summer of 1953. It is not known which patrol he initially joined, but in the Spring of 1954, he was in the Seagull Patrol with Sandy Whiteford as his PL. Changes were made to the patrols during June 1954, such that Neil Cook became PL of the Seagull Patrol. At some point during October or November 1954, Jimmy moved to the Falcon Patrol although the transfer was questioned at a Court of Honour meeting. It is not clear why the transfer was questionned but nobody voted against it.
Unfortunately, there are no details on how far Jimmy got through the Scout Training Scheme or how many badges he gained. Similarly, there are no recorded details of any camps or hikes that he might have participated in. The only event mentioned that he is known to have attended was the Xmas party for younger Scouts during December 1953.
It is not known when Jimmy Lee left the troop. As there is no Troop Log covering the period between March 1955 until February 1957, he could have left at any time during that period.
Lee, Mr.
A Mr. Lee was present during the celebration of the 70th’s 21st anniversary on 8th October 1954. During the event he was part of a panel for 20 Questions. The other members of the panel were DC J.J. Swan, Cub Mistress Isabel McBride and Mrs Whiteford. It is likely that Mr. Lee was the father of Jimmy Lee, who was in the troop at that time, but that remains to be established.
Lind, Ronald
Ronald Lind was in the Troop during the late 1950s and early 1960s. A full review of his period in the troop is provided in the Section covering 1960-68.
Lind, Mr. and Mrs.
Mr. & Mrs. Lind (presumably Ronald Lind’s parents) are mentioned in the troop logs covering 1959-1961. A more detailed review of their connection with the 70th is provided in the Section covering 1960-68.
Lyall, Cameron
Cameron Lyall (occasionally wrongly spelt as Lyle in the records) was in the troop between 1955 and 1957. Birth records suggest that this might be Cameron Brown Lyall who was born in Gourock during 1944. However, that remains to be confirmed. There is no background information regarding Cameron or his family, and it is not known whether Cameron was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack or attended Greenock Academy. If he was indeed born in 1944, then it is likely that he joined the troop in 1955, and there is good supporting evidence for that (see below).
It is likely that Cameron initially joined the Falcon Patrol as it is known that he transferred from the Falcon Patrol to the Fox Patrol in November 1955. Robin McGill became his PL at that point. In October 1956, every Scout in the Fox Patrol was presented with special woggles since the Patrol had been the top Patrol during the 1955-56 session. John Nisbet was also appointed PL of the Fox Patrol that month.
Cameron passed his Tenderfoot Badge and was invested in November 1955. After that, he worked through his Second Class Badge. Cameron actually wrote an entry in the Patrol Log for the 18th January 1957, during which he passed his cooking test. He wrote, “I had to make a bowl of porridge and a piece of toast with scrambled egg over the top. Skipper said that my porridge wasn’t very good but my egg was excellent.” The records do not actually identify when Cameron gained his Second Class Badge, but it was probably before the spring of 1957 as he was working on First Class tests by that time.
In November 1956, the troop held a Tramps party instead of the usual Friday night meeting. The prize for the best dressed tramp went to Alistair Cram, with Cameron coming second.
Unfortunately, it is not known when Cameron left the troop. He was last mentioned in April 1957, but the records do not provide a full troop rota until September 1960. There are also no photographs on the website showing Cameron as a Scout.
Lynd, Ronald - see Lind, Ronald
McBride, Isabel (1935-2015)
IAs far as personal recollections go, Isabel ruled the Pack with a rod of iron. When she yelled ‘Pack, Pack, Pack’ everyone jumped to it. Isabel ran a game called ‘Man the Lifeboat’ which proved extremely popular and was played at virtually every Pack meeting. Isabel was a hospital administrator and a highly efficient one by all accounts. When she retired, she moved to Langbank. Isabel contributed a number of photographs of various Cubs which are still to be incorporated into the website. If Isabel was indeed Isabel Hannah M. McBride, then she died in 2013 at the age of 77.
Isabel McBride lived at 15 Ardgowan Street and was a long-serving Akela in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack during the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. It is believed that her full name was Isabel Hanna M. McBride and that she was born in Gourock during 1935. If so, Isabel would have been 20 when she was photographed at the parade forming outside Finnart Church in June 1955. The first mention of Isabel in the troop records was during October 1954 when she attended a social evening to celebrate the Troop’s 21st anniversary, and was on a panel for a session of Twenty Questions along with DC JJ Swan, Mrs Whiteford and Mr. Lee. Isabel was identified as a Cub Mistress, although it was not specified whether she was with the 70th. As Marjorie Gibson was still the 70th Akela on the 1st October 1954, it is possible that Isabel was the Cub Mistress of a Wolf Cub Pack in another Group at that point. It is not known when exactly Isabel took over the 70th Cub Pack, but it may have been during late 1954 or 1955.
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McElwee, James M.
Mr. James M. McElwee was not a member of the 70th group but he held district appointments during the 1950s and 1960s. His name crops up a number of times in the available log books. A fuller account of this is provided in the section covering the Bob Millar years (1960-66). It is also known that he was the assessor for First Class Hikes in 1954 and probably took over that role from Mr. Ewart about that time. In 1954, he assessed Alistair Shearer and Ian McKenzie for their First Class hike, as well as Bob Miller and Douglas Brown for their Venturer Badge Hike. On the 11th March 1955, he paid the Troop a visit. It is not revealed why he was visiting, but the Seal Patrol scribe wrote that ‘a lot of work was done partly due to the fact that Mr McElwee (A.D.C) paid us a visit.’ This might imply that he was carrying out an inspection.
McEwing, R.
An entry in the Troop log during the summer of 1954 identifies an R. McEwing as a member of the Curlew Patrol. However, there is no other mention of an R. McEwing in the troop records. It is possible that this entry might be an error and that the R. McEwing ought to be W. McEwing (see below).
McEwing, William (Billy)
William McEwing was called ‘Billy’ when he was in the 70th and is known to have been in the Scout Troop from 1954 to 1956. Birth records suggest that this might be William Hendry McEwing who was born in Gourock during 1942. However, that needs to be confirmed and there is currently no background information on William or his family. It is likely that William joined the troop during the first half of 1954 and may have been in the Curlew Patrol with Neville Mort as his PL. The first clear reference to Billy McEwing is of him attending a four-day camp at Everton led by Douglas Brown during August 1954. He was considered for promotion to PL of the Falcons in October 1955, but that post went
to Ronald Gray instead. One of the reasons given was that Billy was “doing the work of PL in the Curlews”. Billy was officially promoted to PL of the Curlew Patrol in November 1955, with John Nisbet as his second. There is a possibility that Billy was elected to PL without first being promoted to Second – a rare but not unique occurrence.
There is no information on Billy’s progress through the Scout Progress system or the number of badges that he might have gained. There is also very little information regarding any camps and hikes that he might have participated in, other than the following. As stated above, he attended a 4-day camp at Everton during August 1954, and was also at the week-long Easter camp held at Invereck in April 1955 as a member of a Peewit Patrol. During that camp, he helped to build a raft that was christened ‘Basin’ (as the constructors involved were Billy, Alastair Shearer, Sandy Whiteford, Ian McKenzie and Neville Mort). The camp log stated that “The raft was duly named and launched and given its trials. All those who dared to go on it had to swim back.” In terms of hikes, Billy participated on a troop hike across the “Right of Way’ during November 1955. During the hike, there was a wide game in which Billy dragged Ian Kirk into a marsh.
Billy McEwing left the troop during April 1956, and was probably aged about 14 at the time. It is not known what he did after leaving the troop. A photograph is on the website showing Billy at the Everton camp of 1954 and possibly at Invereck in 1955.
McFarlane, Ian (From Scout to Troop Leader)
Ian McFarlane’s full name was John Sheridon McFarlane and he was born in Greenock West during 1938. He lived at 1, The Craigs, Greenock and his father (Hugh) was an analytical chemist. Ian’s experiences as a Wolf Cub and Scout are described in more detail in the section covering 1947-1954. In essence, Ian was in the Wolf Cub Pack in the late 1940s and probably joined the Troop in late 1949 or early 1950. In November 1953, he was promoted to PL of the Fox Patrol. After gaining the Coronation Cup for Best Scout in May 1954, Ian was appointed Troop Leader in September 1954 for the 1954-55 session. He gained his Queen’s Scout Badge and received it from the Chief Scout Lord Rowallan in June 1954. Ian
was present at the Invereck Easter camps of 1954 & 1955. He also led a hand-picked patrol to break the flag at the social evening held on 8th October 1954 to celebrate the 21st anniversary of the troop. During the subsequent programme, he acted as question master for a panel game of 20 questions. Ian was still Troop Leader in September 1955, but must have resigned during the last part of the year to join the ranks of the Scouters. He served as an ASM from 1956 to 1963. The period covering 1956-1959 is described in the next entry.
McFarlane, Ian (ASM)
A brief description of Ian’s progress through the Cubs and Scouts is given above. After that, he was an ASM from 1956 to 1963. This section focuses on the period from 1956-1959. Ian was first identified as an ASM in January 1956. Unfortunately, the full Scouter team is not known for the 1956-58 period due to missing records, but in January 1959, it consisted of Scout Master J. R. Blake and ASMs J.S. McFarlane, R.K. Millar, J. Harvey, A. Shearer and S. Whiteford.
As an ASM, Ian was entitled to attend the Court of Honour and to make his opinions known. For example, in November 1957, Trevor Jones wrote the following “ASM McFarlane suggested that PL Jones should ‘shut up’ or stop breathing otherwise he hinted PL Jones might get the ‘boot. This suggestion was unanimously accepted by all except PL Jones.”
Surviving log books give clues of Ian’s responsibilities as an ASM. For example, during the period February 1957 to May 1959 he was responsible for keeping the scores for the monthly interpatrol competitions. In addition, he was responsible for purchasing the various badges required by Scouts during 1959.
Ian attended several of the ‘big camps’ held during the 1956-59 period, although this was usually restricted to a weekend – suggesting that he was in regular employment. For example, he attended for part of Pitlochry in 1957, as well as a weekend at the Blairmore Easter Camp in 1958. At the latter camp, he departed after dinner on the Sunday to hike back to Dunoon for the Gourock ferry, along with Sandy Whiteford and J Harvey. It is likely that Ian too photographs and cine film of some of the camps he visited, but it is not known whether the footage has survived.
Ian was also identified as a volunteer in the distribution of TB leaflets in March 1958, and in December of that year he helped out a jumble sale, during which he strung up sisal from which clothes were hung. He also volunteered to help at another Jumble Sale during May 1959, which was being held by the 1st Renfrewshire at Mount Pleasant. A particularly special event attended by Ian was the Farewell social to mark the departure of JR Blake and his family on the 4th December 1959.
Ian continued as an ASM into the 1960s and this is covered in the section covering the Bob Millar years (1960-66).
McFarlane, Laird
There is currently no background information on Laird McFarlane regarding his parents, birth, address or school, and it seems likely that he was born in another part of the UK, rather than Scotland. The available records suggest that he joined the Troop in March or April 1957 without previous Scouting experience, and was placed in the Fox Patrol. John Nisbet was Laird’s PL in November 1957, and that was still the case in April 1959, by which time Laird was 2nd Scout in the Fox Patrol.
It seems that Laird took longer than usual to pass his Tenderfoot Badge and was eventually invested at the end of November 1957. He then gained his Second Class badge in March 1959. It is not known how may proficiency badges he gained or whether he succeeded in gaining his First Class Badge.
Laird attended the Benderloch summer camp in 1958, and was part of an Eagle patrol led by PL Kenneth Conway. Unfortunately, he fell sick during the camp and had to return home after a week. It is possible that his sickness was caused by a visit to Benderloch where the Scouts consumed “pints of evaporated and condensed milk”. That experience did not seem to put him off camping as he attended the Easter Camp held at Blairmore in 1959 – a particularly wet camp - as well as the Tarbert summer camp in 1959, where he was in a patrol led by Hamish Rankin.
Weekend camps were rarely recorded in the log books, but there was an entry in the Fox Patrol Logbook that suggested that Laird attended a weekend camp at end of May 1959. However, no further details were provided. Laird, himself, wrote up an account of a weekend camp by the Fox Patrol near Kilcreggan in June 1959. The patrol caught the ferry from Gourock to Kilcreggan then walked the two and a half miles to the campsite, which they shared with Scouts from the 59th. Activities during the Saturday included swimming and a game of rounders in which John Nisbet got 3 rounds and Laird got 1. On Sunday, a trail was set up by the 59th for the 70th Scouts to follow, then the roles were reversed. There was also more swimming before they struck camp and returned home via the 5:45 PM bus to Kilcreggan pier, then the Granny Kempock back to Gourock, reaching home at about 7 o’clock.
In terms of competitions, the 70th entered two patrols for the Shannon Cup Competition of 1958, with Laird McFarlane chosen for one of the teams. Unfortunately, it was not stated whether he was chosen for the A team which was 3rd, or the B team which came 6th.
In the 1950s, all Scouts were expected to attend the Troop’s Scouts Owns, as well as annual church parades such as Remembrance Day and St. George’s Day. In addition, volunteers were often asked to represent the Troop at other parades and services. For example, in April 1959, Laird was one of four volunteers representing the 70th at the Seafarers Service in the mid Kirk.
The Fox Patrol log describes a number of troop meetings where Laird’s name cropped up. For example, at one meeting during November 1958, the patrol gained 7 points for inspection. The Scribe wrote “The Fox as usual lost one point owing to Laird MacFarlane being without a belt. He (will) probably have one next week (as he was) reprimanded in a most threatening way by (the) PL and second.” Laird may have blotted his copybook on that occasion, but he made up for it during the Bob-a-Job week of 1959 with the Patrol Log reporting that he gained the most money of all the patrol members, with 15/6 earned out of a patrol total of £2-10-6. Those sums are the equivalent of £18 and £60 respectively in 2021.
There are no further references to Laird in any of the available sources after the Summer Camp of 1959, and it is likely that he left the troop at that point. It is not known what he did after leaving the 70th.
Laird McFarlane is present in some of the photos taken at the Blairmore Easter camp of 1959 (available on the website).
McFarlane, Roy
Roy McFarlane is mentioned briefly as a new Scout from Dumfries who probably joined the troop during the second half of 1959 or the first half of 1960. Further information is provided in the Section covering the Bob Millar years (1960-66)
McGill, M.
It is not known what M. McGill’s Christian name is, or whether he was related to Robin McGill. He was mentioned briefly in the Fox Patrol Log book as being in the Seal Patrol and getting invested during January 1958. A William Michael McGill was born in Gourock during 1946 and this might be the same person, in which case, he probably joined the troop during 1957. He was invested at the same time as Jack Scott, suggesting that they might have been in the same year at school. There were no other references to him in the available records and it is not known when he left the troop, or what he did after leaving school.
McGill, Robin (Blondy)
There is currently no background information on Robin McGill’s family, date of birth, address or school. Birth records identify a Robin McGill being born in Paisley during 1940 and this might be the same person. Robin’s nickname in Scouts was ‘Blondie’ or ‘Blondy’, because of his fair hair. If Robin was born in 1940 and had been in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack, it is likely that he joined the troop during 1951. However, the first real evidence of him being in the troop comes from photographs taken in May 1952, which show him as a member of the Seagull Patrol led by David Slater. However, a reshuffle of the patrols in September 1952 saw Robin being transferred to the Fox patrol with Alistair Duncan now as his PL. By about the April of 1953, Robin had reached 1st Scout status in the Fox Patrol. He was then promoted in May 1954 to
Second of the Fox patrol with Ian McFarlane as his PL. By 1955, the Fox Patrol had a new PL in Stephen Pearce, but in September 1955, Stephen left the troop, and Robin was promoted to PL of the Fox patrol with R. Gray as his ‘very able’ Second (to use Robin’s own words). Robin and Ronald seemed to form a very good partnership as PL and Second, but in November 1955, Ronald was promoted to PL of the Falcon with Ian Kirk taking his place as Second of the Fox.
As far as the Scout Training Scheme is concerned, it is not known when Robin passed his Tenderfoot or Second Class Badges, or whether he completed his First Class Badge. There are also no records of how many proficiency badges Robin gained, other than a Stamp Collector Badge gained in Jan 1956.
Similarly, the available records provide very little information on what camps and outdoor activities Robin might have been involved in. However, he certainly attended a couple of hikes in 1955. During October 1955, he was present on a hike up the Cut that was organized by Ian Blake, starting at the High School and finishing at the main road about half a mile to the Largs side of IBM. He also attended a Hike along the ‘Right of Way’ in November 1955, where the troop met at Ravenscraig school and crossed the “Right of Way” to Lunderston Bay, stopping en route to pass various tests. A wide game was also played which was suitably violent.
The log books identify Robin participating in various events. For example, during Bob-a Job week of 1953, the 70th tried something innovative by placing two shoeshine boxes on Greenock’s main street. Robin was part of the team that took turns in manning the stations. There were also annual Xmas parties for the younger Scouts and Robin attended one such party during December 1953. In October 1954, Robin was chosen to be part of a special patrol which broke the flag at a social evening to celebrate the 21st anniversary of the troop. In addition he was part of the signalling team that put on a display that evening. In November 1955, the troop used the trek cart to collect jumble for a jumble sale. At the Jumble Sale itself, Robin was helping to run the Cake and Candy stall.
When Robin was promoted to PL in September 1955, he was also appointed as troop scribe with the responsibility for writing the Troop log book. This proves that a troop log book was written during the 1955-57 period and it is to be hoped that the missing log book (covering March 1955 - Feb 1957) will turn up in the future, especially as Robin provided good reports in the Fox Patrol Log Book. These reports provide invaluable evidence for a period that is otherwise lacking in information. Robin’s entries include some interesting titbits. For example, in June 1955, he wrote that during Patrol Corners, “an unnamed member of the Fox patrol put his PL’s hat in the basin and turned on the water. When PL Pearce found out, the unnamed member of our patrol followed the hat.” It may well be that Robin himself was the ‘unnamed member’. Also in June 1955, he described a game of cricket played on McAuley’s Field where the sides were picked by Sandy Whiteford and Graham White with about 20 on either side. Robin was on the latter side and reported an easy victory since “the non cricketers were bowled out easily and the good ones all ran each other out.”
Other entries in the Fox Patrol Log include one written by Ronald Gray describing a wide game that was played in September 1955; the hall was not available that night as it was being used by first communicants. The wide game involved each patrol defending an atomic station from ‘spies’. The atomic stations were in fact rockets and the idea was for the patrols to light as many ‘enemy’ rockets as possible whilst defending their own. It was also decided that each Scout should have a piece of wool tied round their wrist representing their life. ‘Dead’ Scouts could return to the game if they went to Skipper and answered a question on Scouting. If answered correctly, they were issued with another life. The Fox Patrol did a fine job of defending their atomic station until ASM Brown intervened on the part of the Curlews and ‘blew up’ the Fox’s atomic station. Ronald backed up his account with a cartoon of ‘Blondie’ disappearing into the sky on the Fox Patrol rocket.
In other entries covering the 1955-56 session, it was revealed that the Fox had won the monthly Patrol championship during October and November 1955, as well as January 1956 - evidence of Robin’s leadership skills. Further evidence of Robin’s popularity as a PL came when he resigned in March 1956. The entry in the Fox Patrol Log for the 23rd of March 1956 was written by B. Elliott and stated, “Robin McGill left Scouts a very unhappy day for us.” Robin was probably aged 16 when he left the troop.
​There are a number of photographs on the website that include Robin, such as the patrol and troop photos taken in 1952, the Troop photo of Dec 1953 and a photo of the troop forming up for a parade outside Finnart Church in 1955.
McGregor, B. / McGregor, W
There is no background information regarding W. McGregor or his family. However it is assumed that the W. was for William as he was also identified as B. McGregor (presumably Billy). There was a William Stewart McGregor born in Greenock East during 1945, but it is by no means certain that this is the same individual. B. McGregor was in the Kingfisher Patrol and was invested on the 5th April 1957 at the same time as C. Boyd. Neither boy appeared to remain in the troop for very long as there are no other references to them.
McKelvie, David
David McKelvie was present in the troop between 1951 and 1954. He was not promoted, but he gained his Second Class Badge in January 1954. Further details of his time in the Scouts is provided in the section covering 1947-1954.
McKenzie, Ian
No background information has been discovered relating to Ian McKenzie in terms of his birth, family or home address. It is not known whether he was a pupil at Greenock Academy, and there is evidence to suggest that he was not in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack. Ian joined the troop in February 1953 along with Jimmy Harvey, which suggests that the two of them were friends and that they might have transferred from another Troop. Ian and Jimmy were perhaps unique in the 70th for being mentioned in the Scouting publication “The Scout” for gaining their Tenderfoot badges during 1953. It is not known which
Patrol Ian initially joined, but by the Spring of 1953, he was in the Fox Patrol with Alistair Duncan as his PL. At some point after that, he must have been transferred, as he was 2nd Scout of the Seal patrol at the beginning of November 1953. On the 12th March 1954, he was transferred briefly to the Falcon Patrol as 1st Scout, before moving again in June 1954 to be 1st Scout of the Fox Patrol with Ian McFarlane as his PL. In September 1955, Ian was promoted to become Second of a new Kingfisher Patrol led by J. Harvey. However, he was only in the Kingfisher patrol for a couple of months before he was promoted to PL of the Falcons in November 1955.
As far as the Scout training scheme is concerned, it is not known when Ian gained his Tenderfoot Badge or whether he gained it prior to joining the 70th. However, Ian gained his Second Class badge in January 1954. During September 1954, Ian completed his First Class journey with Alastair Shearer and both passed the hike the following month once their log books on the hike had been assessed (note that Alistair’s hike log survives add link). During the hike, they visited the Invereck campsite and Ian fell into the river when swinging on a creeper that broke. It is not known for certain whether he gained his First Class Badge or not, but it seems probable, especially as he was promoted to PL.
It is not possible to identify all the hikes and weekend camps that Ian may have completed as these were rarely mentioned in the log books. However, it is known that he was one of the younger Scouts attending the Invereck Easter Camp of 1954, where he was in a patrol led by Douglas Brown. During that camp, he would have been one of the Scouts who completed an evening hike of 8 miles to Glen Lean and back in a respectable time of 2 ½ hours. It is also recorded that Ian and Hamish Rankin played football whist with Andy Whiteford and Robert Millar – an activity that usually indicated bad weather with the Scouts confined to their tents. Ian also attended Easter camp at Invereck during April 1955 when he was in a Peewit Patrol led by Sandy Whiteford. During the camp, he helped Billy McEwing, Alastair Shearer, Sandy Whiteford, and Neville Mort construct a raft which was duly named the ‘Basin’ (corresponding to the initials of the constructors’ Christian names). The raft was duly launched and ‘given its trials’. According to the log report, “All those who dared to go on it had to swim back”. There is also photographic evidence of Ian being present at the Inveraray summer camp 1955. However, no written accounts of that camp survive.
Ian was one of the Scouts that manned the two shoeshine boxes that the 70th set up in Greenock during Bob-a-Job week of 1953. Overall, the Troop earned £55 11s 2d during that week – the equivalent of £1590 in 2021. However, Ian failed to show the same commitment to Bob a Job Week in 1954, and he was brought before the Court of Honour to explain why he had failed to raise any money at all. Ian was unable to provide a satisfactory answer for his tardiness and the Chairman of the Court informed him that he would have to be omitted from any chance of promotion. Ian clearly mended his ways after that because he was eventually promoted to Patrol Leader.
Ian was also a member of the 70th football team which beat the Gourock troop 5-0 during October 1953, with Ian scoring one of the goals. The team also beat the 5th Renfrewshire 2-1 in December 1953. A Junior party was held each year round about Xmas time, and Ian attended the party held in December 1953. Ian was last mentioned attending the Court of Honour in April 1956, and left the troop at some point between then and the beginning of October 1956. Unfortunately, it is not possible to identify when he resigned more accurately due to the lack of records covering that period.
Ian McKenzie is present in some of the photographs shown on the website, such as the football team of 1953, the troop photo taken in December 1953, Easter Camp 1954 and Summer camp 1955.
McKenzie, James
There is no information regarding Jim’s family background, birth, address or school. Birth Records suggest that Roderick James MacKenzie born in Greenock West during 1945 as a likely candidate. However, there was also a James McKenzie born in Greenock East in the same year. Jim McKenzie is known to have been present in the troop between 1954 and 1955. However, the lack of records between March 1955 and February 1957 throws doubt on just how long he was in the troop. It is likely that Jim joined the troop during June 1954. A troop reshuffle was carried out that month which may have been precipitated by recent
recruits and Jim was first mentioned on that date as being in the Fox Patrol with Ian McFarlane as his PL. His namesake, I. McKenzie, was also in the patrol. A year later in June 1955, Ian was still with the Fox Patrol with Stephen Pearce as his PL. Further changes occurred over the summer and by September 1955, Robin McGill was PL. Jim was no longer with the patrol in November 1955. However, it is not known whether he had left the troop by that time or was transferred to another patrol.
​There is not a huge amount of information regarding Jim’s participation in Scout activities. However, there is photographic evidence of him attending the Troop’s camp at Invereck during 1955. It is not known what Jim did after leaving school.
McKinnon, Robert
At present, there is no background information regarding Robert McKinnon or his family. His address at the time he was in the Scouts has still to be identified and it is not known for certain whether he was a pupil at Greenock Academy. It is unlikely that he was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack as he was recruited in October 1953. Therefore, it is not known what age he was on joining or whether he had previous Scouting experience with another troop. Birth records reveal that a Robert Johnston MacKinnon was born in Gourock during 1939, while a Robert Harrison McKinnon was born in Greenock West in the same year. If either of these individuals correspond to the Robert McKinnon that was in the 70th, he would have been about 14 when he joined.
Robert was initially placed in the Curlew Patrol, but was transferred the following week to the Fox Patrol. In March 1954, there was a vote at the Court of Honour to see who would be the next Second of the Falcon Patrol. Robert gained the most votes, but the promotion did not take place as SM Brian Hodgson stated that he wanted Robert to remain in the Fox Patrol. No further details as to why that should be the case were provided. However, the current Second of the Fox Patrol was transferred to the Falcon patrol, and it is presumed that Robert became the new Second of the Fox Patrol. In May 1954, Robert was considered for promotion to PL, but Neville Mort gained more votes. As a result, Robert was transferred to become the Second of the Curlew Patrol with Neville as his PL. Robert was eventually promoted to Patrol Leader at some point during the 1954-55 session. The most likely time would have been September 1954, but it is not known which patrol he took over.
There is not a great deal of information on how far Robert got through the Scout Training scheme, but an indication that Robert might have transferred from another Scout Troop is the fact that he gained his Second Class Badge in January 1954, which is only 3 months after he joined. He seemed to take an interest in picking up new skills as he took part in a practical and theoretical pioneering training day laid on by David Slater during November 1954. Unfortunately, it is not known how many proficiency badges Robert gained, or whether he completed his First Class Badge. However, it is known that he completed his 1st Class hike with Neville Mort in April 1954 during Easter Camp at Invereck. This suggests that he may well have gained the 1st Class badge, especially as he was promoted to PL.
It was only a week after Robert joined the troop that he was playing for the 70th’s football team, and scoring a goal in the team’s 5-0 victory over ‘the Gourock Troop’ (presumably the 6th Renfrewshire) during October 1953. He also played in a game against the 5th Renfrewshire in December 1953 which the 70th won 2-1. Robert attended the troop’s Easter Camp at Invereck in April 1954, and read a passage from the Bible at one of the Scouts Owns held each morning. A report on this camp is available on the website along with photographs. He may also have been on other camps and hikes that are not recorded in the available records.
In April 1954, it was decided that Robert should be brought before the Court of Honour as he had obtained nothing for Bob-a-Job week. It is not certain whether that encounter ever took place, but the incident did not affect him adversely as he was promoted eventually to PL. It is also significant that in October 1954, Robert was one of the Scouts chosen for a special patrol that broke the flag at the start of the social event celebrating the troop’s 21st anniversary.
Robert was reported as winning a ‘good game of British Bulldog’ in December 1954, suggesting that he was one of the bigger boys at that time, but he appeared to lose interest in Scouting after the summer of 1955, and eventually resigned in November 1955 when he was probably 16. It is not known what he did after that.
The website contains photographs that include Robert McKinnon, such as the Troop photograph of December 1953 and photos taken at Easter Camp 1954.
MacLean, I.
The Court of Honour minutes for April 1959 state that an I. Maclean had left the troop. It is not known what his Christian name was and there is no reference to him in the Troop Log or Fox Patrol Log. Unfortunately, a full rota of the troop is absent in any of the surviving records covering the latter half of the 1950s. Therefore, it is not known when he joined the troop or what Scouting activities he participated in.
MacLeod, E.
There is no background information regarding E. MacLeod, and his Christian name has not been identified. An E. Macleod was identified in November 1955 as last Scout of the Fox patrol, with Robin McGill as his PL. There are no further references to him in the available records. However, the troop log covering the period March 1955 to February 1957 is currently missing and so it is not possible to say how long he was in the Troop or what he achieved during the time he was a Scout.
McQuat, D.
D. McQuat was present in the troop during 1955 and 1956. It is thought that this might be David Duncan McQuat who was born in Gourock during 1944. Apart from that, there is no further background information regarding his family or address. If this was David, it is likely that he joined the troop around the summer of 1955 when he would be about 11. It is not known which Patrol he joined initially, but he was transferred to the Curlew Patrol in November 1955. In January 1956, he was considered for promotion to Second, but it was Ken Conway that was eventually chosen. After that, there are no other references to D. McQuat. However, there is very little information covering the period March 1955-February 1957 due to a missing troop Log. Therefore, it is not possible to identify how long David stayed in the Troop or what he achieved during the time he was in the Scouts. It is also not known what he did on leaving Scouts. A David attended the Tarbert Summer Camp of 1959, but his surname was not provided, unfortunately.
There are no photographs showing D. McQuat as a Scout.
Miller, Robert (From Scout to PL)
Bob Miller’s experiences as a Scout and Patrol Leader are described in more detail in the section covering 1947-1954. To summarise, Bob lived at 18 Johnstone Street, Greenock, and his father was a flesher. Bob’s nickname in the Scouts was ‘Eccles’. He joined the troop in 1951 and eventually became PL of the Curlew Patrol. Bob successfully progressed through the progressive training scheme to gain his Queen’s Scout Badge, and was one of only four 70th Scouts to receive his certificate from a Chief Scout (Lord Rowallan).
Bob was very keen on outdoor Scouting and he attended the Invereck Easter Camp at Invereck during 1954. As a climax to the 1953-54 session, Bob Miller, Sandy Whiteford and Graham White attended the Blair Atholl Jamborette. Bob also attended a 4-day camp at Everton led by Troop Leader Douglas Brown.
Bob finally resigned as a Patrol Leader on the 3rd September 1954 to join the ranks of the Scouters (see next entry).
There are quite a few photos on the website that show Bob as a Scout including the troop and patrol photos of 1952 and 1953, Victor Clark’s wedding, and the Invereck weekend camp in 1954.
Miller, Robert (ASM)
Bob Miller’s experiences as a Scout are summarised above. On the 3rd of September 1954, he joined the ranks of the Scouters, which also included SM Brian Hodgson and ASMs David Slater, Andy Whiteford and Douglas Brown. Technically, Bob was an Acting ASM as he was still of Scout age. Therefore, on the 9th September 1954, he was elected as a flag bearer at parades, along with Ian McFarlane. The records covering the period 1955-1957 are very sketchy and a full list of the Troop’s Scouters was not provided until January 1959, by which time it consisted of SM J. R. Blake and ASMs J.S. McFarlane, R.K. Millar, J. Harvey, A. Shearer and S. Whiteford.
Bob was present as an ASM at most, if not all, of the major camps from 1955 to 1959, including the summer camps to Inveraray (1955), Pitlochry (1957), Benderloch (1958) and West Loch Tarbert (1959), as well as the Easter Camps to Invereck (1955), Roseneath (1957) and Blairmore (1958 and 1959). A very wet summer camp to West Loch Tarbert took place in 1956 and there was probably an Easter camp that year as well. Unfortunately, there are no Patrol or Troop Logs covering those camps, so it has not been possible to identify who attended those camps.
It appears that Bob was responsible for collecting the camp forms for the Pitlochry summer camp, and he was quartermaster at the camp itself. The leader team consisted of GSM Victor J. Clark, SM J.R. Blake, QM Robert (Bob) Miller, Sandy Whiteford, J. Harvey and I. McFarlane (Long weekend only). Bob’s baking skills were evident from various camp reports and he usually produced some delicacy in camp. For example, the Pitlochry camp report stated, “Those who did not go out of camp enjoyed pancakes and syrup made by Bob Miller. They proved a great success, much to the annoyance of those who went into town”. Bob also directed the cooking of pancakes over the campfire at the Blairmore Easter camps of 1958 and 1959.
Unusually, Bob only spent a couple of days at the Benderloch camp, before leaving with John Nisbet. The reasons for this short stay were not given. At the Blairmore Easter camp of 1959, Bob was in charge for most of the camp and decided to send the younger Scouts home a day early because of extremely heavy rain. However, on the day before, the PLs went on an owl hunt. The Troop Scribe wrote, “Needless to say, none were caught although we just about clobbered Eccles who was foolish enough to make owl sounds.”
Very few weekends were recorded in the log books. An exception was a weekend camp that Bob ran at Roseneath during May 1959 as a practice for the Shannon cup competition. Bob also helped Douglas Brown at a number of weekend camps held for the 1st Renfrewshire Scouts.
Finally, it should be noted that Bob was heavily influenced by his experiences at the 1954 Blair Atholl Jamborette, and he returned with all sorts of new ideas gleaned from the various Scouts that he had met there. This played an important part in shaping the format of future Summer and Easter camps, not only during Bob’s period as ASM and SM, but for many years afterwards. In particular, the emphasis on patrol camping and cooking over wood fires was firmly established during the 1950s and lasted well into the 1990s.
During the 1950s, all Scouts and Scouters were expected to attend the various Scouts Owns and Church Parades that were held each year. In addition, volunteers were often requested to represent the 70th Troop at special parades. For example, Bob accompanied four 70th Scouts up to Glasgow by train to attend a County Scout Jubilee parade held in May 1057. Unfortunately, the train was delayed by an hour at Woodhall, which meant that all the Greenock and District Scouts on board missed the Church service. However, once they did arrive at Glasgow Central, they assembled outside the station, paraded to a park where they marched past the saluting base, then marched back to the station and fell out. It was not stated whether anyone was actually at the saluting base by that time. Volunteers were sometimes asked to represent the troop at other kinds of events. For example, in May 1959, volunteers were requested to help at a jumble sale being held by the 1st Renfrewshire Scouts at Mount Pleasant. Bob Miller was one of those that volunteered.
A special event that was held during Bob’s period as an ASM was a Scout Display at the Rankin Park during May 1957. In preparation for this event, Bob and JR Blake went to the Park to collect a plan of the park – presumably one which showed where each troop was to set up their contribution to the display. The event itself was held at the end of May with the troops parading to the park from Drummond Street.
The Court of Honour Minutes provide an insight into some of the things that were discussed between the PLs and the Scouters. Several of these involved Bob. For example, in October 1954, Bob pointed out that there had been previous discussions on holding regular socials but that nothing had been done about it. It was then proposed that a regular whist drive be held on the first Wednesday of every month. Bob was responsible for making up ‘printing plates’ (presumably for tickets and/or programmes) and for showing Sandy Whiteford (the new printer) what needed to be done. At least one such whist drive was mentioned in the troop log for December 1954. A dance for older Scouts was another social event that usually occurred in December or January each year. In 1957, Bob was Master of Ceremonies for one such dance, which made a useful profit of £3-12-6.
Jumble sales were a popular method of raising troop fund during the 1950s and it is known that one such jumble sale was held towards to end of 1955 with Bob and J.R. Blake collecting an admission fee of 3d at the door. Bob also acted as the Troop Treasurer for a substantial period of time and provided regular updates on the finances at the Court of Honour from February 1957 to at least September 1959. Part of that role seemed to be collecting cards and money from the Scouts following Bob-a-Job week - a task that usually involved chasing various individuals up.
As far as the regular troop meetings were concerned, Bob and the other leaders often came up with various stunts as patrol challenges. For example, during November 1955, each patrol was given a length of cord and told to make a tripod stand, after which Sandy Whiteford and Bob showed the troop the proper way to do it. Leaders also had to run games during the troop meeting and were susceptible to ‘reprimands’ from the Scout Scribes responsible for maintaining the troop and patrol log books. For example, the Patrol Scribe for the Fox Patrol was quick to highlight any refereeing errors that might have taken place during the Patrol Game and in November 1957, Bob incurred the Scribe’s displeasure by getting the score wrong, such that the Fox Patrol lost instead of drew with the Seal Patrol.
An interesting entry in the Court of Honour minutes for November 1957 involved a conversation regarding Bob’s little brother Ian, where Bob was forced to concede that Ian was a ‘little horror’. A couple of other entries in the COH minutes during 1959 reveal that Bob was a bit of a story teller. On both occasions, the COH had to be brought to a close once Bob started telling funny stories. There then followed a general session of jokes and stories till quite late. It is likely that these story telling sessions occurred on a fairly regular basis, and campfires held at camp or at troop meetings must have been entertaining events with Bob around. For example, in November 1958, Bob sang a duet with John Nisbet which was much applauded, then in May 1959, he played a wooden whistle that he had made at camp.
On Friday 4th December 1959, Bob attended a particularly important social event marking the departure of SM J.R. Blake and his family to Trinidad for 3 years. The entertainment included a song that had been composed by the Scout choir and Mrs Lind to the tune of “Uncle Tom Cobley”. The chorus was as follows;
Our skipper is going to gay Trinidad,
We’re sorry he’s going, it’s really quite sad,
We wish them good luck in his ventures abroad,
Kenneth Johnston, John Doe, Jim Blair, Ronald Lind,
And uncle Bob Miller and all, and uncle Bob Miller and all etc
Because of Ian Blake’s imminent departure, there was an unofficial ceremony on Friday 11th December 1959 when Ian handed the Troop over to Bob. Bob then became Scout Master of the 70th and remained so for the next six years. This is covered in more detail in the section covering 1960-66.
Miller, Mr.
Not much is known about Bob’s father other than he was a flesher, but the troop log mentioned that his van was used to help collect jumble during the week of 29th November – 5th December 1958. The jumble sale would have been held not long after that.
Miller, Mrs.
The COH minutes for the 29th of October 1954 reveal that a Mrs Miller was to be contacted in relation to the catering for a forthcoming social event. It is not known whether Mrs. Miller was related to Bob or any of the other Millers that were in the troop during the 1950s.
Miller, Clark
Clark Miller was an ex Scout and Rover Scout, who initially joined the Group as an Assistant Cubmaster. In June 1954, he joined the Troop as its only warranted ASM and took on the responsibility for the troop records. However, no other references to Clark have been found in the available records and it is not known when he left the group or what he did afterwards.
A photograph taken outside Finnart Church during the summer of 1953 includes Clark Miller.
Miller, Ian
Ian Miller was Bob Miller’s younger brother and lived at 14 Johnstone Street, Greenock. However, it is not known when he was born or whether he attended Greenock Academy. It is also not known whether he was in the 70th Wolf Cub or when he joined the troop. This is largely due to a missing Troop logbook covering the period March 1955-February 1957, and it is thought that Ian may have joined the troop during that period. The first reference to Ian in the available records is of him attending the troop’s 1957 summer camp at Pitlochry when he was in a Woodpecker patrol run by PL B. Elliot. Ian gained his Second Class Badge on the 1st November 1957, but the only other reference to him in the available records was in the COH minutes of that same date when ASM Bob Miller admitted that his brother was a ‘little horror’. It is not known when Ian left the troop or what he did afterwards.
Miller, Jimmy
Nothing is known about Jimmy in terms of his date of birth, background or address. It is also not known whether he was a pupil at Greenock Academy or a Wolf Cub in the 70th Pack. Neither is it known when exactly he joined the troop. The first mention of Jimmy is in the 70th’s Coronation Brochure which may have been written about April 1953. At that point, he was in the Seagull Patrol with Sandy Whiteford as his PL. As Jimmy was listed as last Scout, it suggests that he may have joined the Troop at some point during the 1952-53 session. At some point, he must have been transferred to the Curlew Patrol, as the Seal Patrol Log states that Jimmy was transferred from the Curlew Patrol to the Seal patrol on the 12th March 1954. However, on the 19th June 1954, he was transferred to a Falcon patrol, with Sandy Whiteford as PL.
Unfortunately, there is no information regarding Jimmy’s progress through the Scout Training Scheme, the number of badges which he gained or the various camps or hikes that he might have participated in. However, it is known that he gained the Bookman, Jobman and Missioner Proficiency badges during the Spring of 1954. It is also known that he was picked for the 70th football team to play the 5th Renfrewshire in December 1953, although he was unable to play on the day. He also attended the junior Xmas party on the 22nd Dec 1953. Jimmy was last mentioned in the COH minutes for the 5th November 1954 as he had not been attending Scouts. It is presumed that he left the troop fairly soon after that. Jimmy is present in the Troop photograph taken in December 1953.
Moore, John
John Moore may have joined the Troop during 1957 or 1958, but not very much us known about his background. He was in the troop from at least 1957 until 1962 and was promoted to PL. A more detailed account is provided in the section covering 1960-66.
Morrison, Bertie
Bertie Morrison was the Camp Skipper at Everton Campsite during the 1950s and 1960s, and is occasionally mentioned in the 70th Log books for both eras. In June 1957, he read out the results for that year’s Shannon Cup Competition, in which the 70th gained a creditable second place. Bertie brought an end to the proceedings with “So ends another Shannon Cup competition”.
Neville’s full name was Neville Cowan Mort, and he was born in Gourock on the 5th November 1940. He was in the same class at Greenock Academy as Peter Morrison, and his father was Greenock’s police chief. Neville was in the 70th’s Wolf Cub Pack and he was present in the Pack photograph taken in May 1949. Another photograph shows that he was a member of Douglas Brown’s six.
Neville probably moved up to troop on the 8th June 1951 and was placed in the Seagull patrol with David Slater as his PL. Following a reshuffle of the patrols in September 1952, Neville was transferred to the Wolf Patrol as 2nd Scout with
Mort, Neville (1940-2006)
Douglas MacNeill as his PL. By about April 1953, Neville was 1st Scout in the Wolf patrol with John Heap as his PL, then in November 1953, he was promoted to Second of the Fox Patrol. In May 1954, he was promoted to PL of the Curlew Patrol with R. MacKinnon as his Second. A photograph of the troop lining up for a parade outside Finnart Church in June 1955 also suggests that Neville was appointed as the flag bearer for the Troop Flag.
As far his progress through the Scout Training scheme is concerned, it is not known when Neville gained his Tenderfoot badge. However, it is likely that he did so during the second half of 1951. He gained his Second Class Badge in October 1953, and it is possible that he might have gained his First Class Badge. He certainly completed his First Class journey in April 1954 with Robert McKinnon. However, it appears unlikely that he would have gained his Queen’s Scout Badge as he left the Troop when he was about 15. It is not known how many proficiency badges he gained, but they included the following – Bookman, Speaker, Starman, Speaker, Weatherman and Stamp Collector. In January 1954, Neville came third in the annual GSM’s cup after Douglas Brown and Sandy Whiteford. The competition that year involved semaphore.
It is not possible to identify all the camps and hikes Neville may have participated in, as many were not recorded, but he attended a weekend camp at Invereck in March 1954 (the first time that the 70th had camped there), as well as the Invereck Easter Camps of 1954 and 1955. Neville also attended a 4-day camp at Everton led by TL Douglas Brown during 1954. During the Easter camp of 1954, Neville provided a bible reading at one of the Scouts Owns held each morning. At the Easter Camp of 1955, he was PL of an Owl patrol and was involved in the construction of a raft called the ‘Basin’, which was duly launched and given its trials. According to the log, “All those who dared to go on it had to swim back.”
In terms of competitions, Neville was chosen for the 70th team that won the District Signalling Competition in June 1953. He was also clearly good at sports. In June 1953, he participated in the Scout Sports day held at Cappielow Park – an event that was part of a Scout week that had been organized to celebrate the Coronation. Neville came second in the 100 yard race for Scouts aged 11-12. He was also a member of the 70th’s football team during 1953. One of the games played by the team included a victory against the 5th Renfrewshire on the 5th December 1953.
In March 1954, Neville took over from Graham White as scribe of the Troop Log and remained Scribe until May 1954. The last reference to Neville as a Scout in the troop records was of him attending a Court of Honour during March 1955. It is not known when he eventually resigned, but it is likely to have been close to the summer of 1955, by which time he would have been about 15. It is not known why Neville left the 70th at that point or whether he remained in Scouting. He certainly seemed to maintain an attachment to the Troop. The very last reference to Neville in the Troop Log was on Friday, 12th April 1957, when the scribe wrote, “Neville Mort, who used to be in the troop, paid us a visit tonight.” The scribe also included a cartoon of a very elderly gentleman with a walking stick representing the 17-year old Neville.
Full details of what Neville did on leaving school are not known, but Companies House have records of him being appointed as a director of Redruth Brewery Limited in 1992. The company manufactured beer at The Brewery, Redruth, Cornwall. Neville died in Dorset at the age of 65 in May 2006.
As far as personal recollections go, Peter Morrison was friendly with Neville and considered him a ‘good lad’. Neville is present in various photographs on the website, including the Cub photos taken in 1949, troop and patrol photos taken in May 1952, photos taken outside Finnart Church in 1953, the troop photograph of Dec 1953, the Invereck camps of 1954 and 1955, and a Scout parade in 1955.
Muir, Ritchie
Nothing is known regarding the background of Ritchie Muir or his family. A Charles Ritchie Muir was born in Blantyre during 1943, but there is also a possibility that Ritchie might have been born in another part of the UK. Ritchie was unlikely to have been in the 70th Wolf Cubs and was probably a friend of Robert Harvey, as the two boys arrived together at a troop meeting held during March 1957. Ritchie joined the Seal Patrol and passed his Tenderfoot Badge in May 1957. He was invested into the Troop the following week. Unfortunately, there are no other records of Ritchie’s progress through the Scout training scheme. In September 1958, Ritchie was promoted to Second of the Curlew Patrol with Brian Elliot as his PL.
Ritchie attended a number of camps, several of which may not have been recorded. The first significant camp that he is known to have attended was the Blairmore Easter camp of 1958. He then followed that up by attending that year’s summer camp at Benderloch where he was in an Eagle Patrol led by PL Kenneth Conway. According to the camp report, Ritchie had brought a gramophone with him to camp.
Ritchie left the troop in April 1959. However, a later entry in the troop log for April 1960 reported that 70th Scouts camping at Blairmore met Ken Conway, Stuart Scott, and R. Muir at Ardentinny, where the trio were undertaking an overnight hike. The route was not identified, but one possibility was a hike to Carrick Castle and back.
No other information on Ritchie is currently known.
Munro, Donald
There is no background information on Donald Munro or his family. However, a Donald Ross Munro was born in Gourock during 1945. It is not yet known whether Donald was a pupil at Greenock Academy or a member of the 70th Wolf Cub Pack. Donald is an example of a Scout that has only been identified through the survival of the Fox Patrol Log (1955-1959), as the Troop Log covering the period March 1955 to February 1957 is currently missing. Donald was a member of the Fox patrol and so his progress is fairly well covered, in contrast to Scouts in other patrols during that period.
The exact date on which Donald joined the troop was not recorded, but it is likely to have been April 1956 as that was when he passed his law and promise. It is also reasonable to assume that he was placed in the Fox Patrol with Robin McGill as PL when he first joined the Troop. During October 1956, Donald was one of the Fox Patrol Scouts who received a special woggle to mark the fact that the Fox Patrol had won the Patrol of the Year Competition for the 1955-56 session. That month, the Patrol also gained John Nisbet as their Patrol Leader.
It was not recorded when Donald gained his Tenderfoot badge and got invested. However, the Patrol Log provides detailed information on the various tests that he trained for and passed from week to week. These indicate that Donald would have gained his Second Class Bridge by the summer of 1957. However, it is not known whether he gained any proficiency badges or attended any camps or hikes.
The Patrol Log’s last reference to Donald was on the 14th of March 1958 when it was stated that “Word was received of the disjunction of D. Munro (Fox)”. No other information on Donald is known following that date and it is not known whether he left the troop at that point or moved to another patrol. Similarly, it is not known what he did after leaving school.
Currently, there is no background information regarding Alistair Nicol or his family. His forename and surnames are also spelt in various ways in the available records. However, if the spelling used here is correct, this might be Alistair Fisher Nicol who was born in Inverkip during 1943. If so, he would have been about 12 or 13 when he joined the troop in January 1956. It seems quite likely that he had previous Scouting experience and transferred from another Scout Group as he was promoted to Second of the Falcon Patrol under Hamish Rankin during October 1956. Hamish and Alistair then continued to lead the patrol for almost 3 years.
In terms of his progress through the Scout training scheme, Alistair gained his Second Class badge during November 1956, but it is not known for certain whether he gained his First Class Badge or not. However, it seems likely that he did as he completed his First Class hike in 1958 (see below).
Alistair’s Scouting skills were sufficiently impressive to get him chosen as a member of the 70th Patrol that came second in the Shannon Cup Competition held in June 1957. The full patrol consisted of J. Harvey, A. Shearer, Hamish Rankin, John Nisbet , B. Elliott, A. Campbell, A. Nicol and Jim Blair.
Alistair also attended the Blairmore Easter Camp of 1958 as a member of a Beaver Patrol made up of Hamish Rankin, B. Elliott, A. Nicol and Jim Blair. During that camp, he completed his First Class overnight hike with W. Harkness.
Alistair clearly lost interest during 1959 and was brought before the COH on the 8th May 1959 for poor attendance and a lack of effort at Bob-a Job week. Ian Blake gave him a talking to, but Alatair left the troop at the end of May 1959. Unfortunately, it is not known what he did after leaving school and there are no photographs of Alistair as a Scout.
Nicol, Alistair
Nisbet, John
John’s full name was John Harrison Nisbet, and he was born in Greenock West during 1943. John lived at 6 Park Avenue, Greenock and his father was Mr. Alex M. Nisbet, who was a teacher. However, it is not known what Mr.Nisbet taught or which school he taught at. John was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack, and it is assumed that he was also a pupil of Greenock Academy. He moved up to the Troop in March 1954, along with S. Scott and H. Kerr, suggesting that the trio were classmates at school. John’s nickname in Scouts was ‘Niz’ or ‘Nis’.
It is not known which Patrol John joined initially, but following a reorganization of the patrols in June 1954, he was in the Seagull Patrol with Neil Cook as his PL. John was fairly speedily promoted to Second of the Curlew Patrol in
November 1955, with William McEwing as his PL. The following year in October 1956, John was promoted to PL of the Fox Patrol, with I. Kirk as his Second. John would have been about 13 at this stage – an indication of how young the troop was in general in 1956. In November 1957, the Court of Honour voted on who should be the next Troop Leader, with John gaining five out of the eight votes cast. However, it was not until January 1958 that John was formally presented with his third stripe. Unlike most other Troop Leaders, John chose to retain his patrol. By this point, his second in the Fox Patrol was B. Howieson. The same pairing was still in charge of the Patrol at the end of April 1959.
As far as John’s progress through the Scout Training Scheme is concerned, it is not known when he gained his Tenderfoot or Second Class Badges. However, he was certainly working on his First Class Badge by November 1956 and he eventually gained the badge in May 1958. He also gained his Venturer Badge in the same month, then gained his Bushman’s Thong in October 1958. Finally, he gained his Queens Scout Badge in March 1959, although it was not until the 3rd June 1960 that he was presented with his badge by DC J.J. Swan. The reason for this substantial delay was not provided. It is not known how many Proficiency Badges John gained, but it is known that they included the Music Maker, Despatch Rider and Tracker badges.
No doubt John participated in a large number of camps and hikes, many of which were not recorded. However, those that were recorded included summer camps to Pitlochry (1957), Benderloch (1958) and Tarbert (1959). At the Pitlochry camp, he led a Panther Patrol. Oddly enough, he was only present at the Benderloch Camp for two nights before departing with Bob Miller, which suggests that there may have been some other event that they attended that year. At Tarbert, John was Troop Leader and part of the leader team, but camped with the Scouts. John also attended an Easter Camp at Blairmore (1958) where he led a Panther Patrol. During that camp, John completed his first class hike with B Howison. It was also reported that he was one of the Scouts making pancakes on the campfire under the direction of Bob Miller. Finally, John ran a Patrol weekend camp to Kilcreggan in June 1959. An account of the camp was provided in the patrol log, but there are no known photographs.
In terms of competitions, John was a member of the 70th Patrol that came second in the Shannon Cup competition held in June 1957. The full patrol consisted of J. Harvey, A. Shearer, Hamish Rankin, John Nisbet, B. Elliott, A. Campbell, A. Nicol and Jim Blair. He was also selected in 1958 for one of the two teams entered by the 70th that year. One of the teams came 3rd, and the other 6th. Unfortunately, the patrol members were not specified. As far as Patrol competitions were concerned, the Fox Patrol under John’s leadership won the monthly competition in October 1958, and were runners up in April and May 1959.
An entry from the Fox Patrol Log suggests that John Nisbet and Kenneth Conway were the troop’s flag bearers as they were involved in a flag practice at Orangefield Baptist Church in October 1957. This was in preparation for a District parade to be held on the 20th October. However, the reason for the parade was not provided. John was also mentioned as being a member of the colour party at the Remembrance Day Parade to Finnart Church on Sunday 10th November 1957. There was an excellent turn out and JRB complemented the colour party for acquitting themselves well.
John was a Scout that could be relied to step up to the plate when volunteers were required to represent the 70th. For example, John was one of the five 70th Scouts who volunteered to attend a County Jubilee parade in Paisley during May 1957. Unfortunately, the train to Glasgow was an hour late in arriving and so they missed the Church service. However, on arriving at Glasgow Central, the Greenock Scouts duly assembled outside the station, then paraded to a park where they marched past the saluting base, before parading back to the station and falling out to catch the train home. It is not clear whether they did this on their own or managed to join up with the rest of the County at some point. The former seems more likely from the description given. John was also involved in setting up a hall in preparation for a jumble sale organised to raise funds for the troop in December 1958. Finally, the Fox Patrol Log included details of each individual’s efforts during Bob-a-Job week in 1959. John raised 10/- towards the Patrol total of £2 – 10- 6. The equivalent sums in 2021 would have been £10.00 and £48.50 respectively.
John’s name is mentioned several times in the troop records in relation to social events. For example, in January 1957, the Court of Honour was discussing a planned dance that would involve both the Scouts and the Church’s Bible Class. It was stated that a large percentage of the Bible Class were actually in the troop, to which John added “of the boys anyway!” Later on, SM J.R. Blake warned the PLs that they would have to behave ourselves with the Bible Class being present, whereupon John said, “Scouts should remember their manners at dances and not say ‘Are ye fur up.’”
John actually comes across as a man of culture. For example, he missed a Court of Honour meeting during October 1957 because he went to see a Shakespearean play in Glasgow. This might have been related to a school trip. The in June 1959, he was Stage Manager of the Academy’s production of the ‘Mikado’ at the Arts Guild theatre. It’s a moot point as to whether Friday night campfires count as culture, but John’s name crops up a number of times in relation to these occasions. For example, in November 1957, he provided the words of the jamboree song and the rest of the troop joined in heartily at the chorus. This must have been related to the Jamboree held at Sutton Coldfield that year and which was attended by several 70th Scouts. At another campfire in November 1958, Bob Miller and John sang a duet which was ‘much applauded’. Unfortunately, it was not recorded what was sung, although it was unlikely to have been a classical piece. Nevertheless, John’s interests in culture and classical music comes across very strongly during his time as an ASM (see the section covering 1960-66). One particular social event that is worth highlighting was the Farewell Social held on the 4th December 1959 to mark the departure of JR Blake and his family to Trinidad for three years. John was one of those present at that event.
John seemed to court controversy on occasions. At a COH meeting held during September 1958, he proposed that a PLs meeting should be held in the kitchen after all competent business had been dispatched and the court closed. He then proposed the abolition of ‘ducking’ for Scouts who had just gained their Second and First Class badges, and especially for those gaining their Queen’s Scout Badge. Nothing was decided, but there was “a heated argument”. John’s motion may well have been inspired by the fact that he was getting close to gaining the Queen’s Scout Badge himself by that time. Nevertheless, there were many who would have said that he had a point, even at that time.
In April 1959, John started a Cadet Scouters Course along with Ken Conway, Ken Johnson and Trevor Jones. He finally resigned as Troop Leader and Patrol Leader on the 11th September 1959 to join the ranks of the Scouters. By that time, he would have been 16 and still within the Scout age range. This is probably why he was labeled as a V.J.A.S.M. (Very Junior Assistant Scout Master). It is not known whether this was an official or unofficial designation at the time. John’s experiences as part of the Scouter team are summarized in the section covering 1960-66.
John is present in only a few of the available photographs taken when he was a Scout. These include a rather poor quality photograph taken at Pitlochry Summer Camp 1957 and one from the Farewell social to JRB in 1959.
Nisbet, Michael
Michael Nisbet was John Nisbet’s younger brother and a member of the 70th’s Wolf Cub Pack during the 1950s. He moved up to the Troop during October 1958 and remained with the 70th until at least 1966. A more detailed account of his Scouting career is given in the section covering 1960-66.
Paterson, Eric
There is no background information on Eric Paterson or his family. However, an Eric Hetherington Paterson was born in Greenock West during 1940. If this is the same person, he would have been 13 when he joined the troop in 1953. It is not known whether Eric had previous Scouting background and was transferring from another troop. Eric was invested into the troop in January 1954, but it is not known which patrol he was in. However, following a troop reorganization carried out in June 1954, he was reported to be in the Seal Patrol with Graham White as his PL. The records are then very quiet regarding Eric until January 1956, when the COH minutes stated that an ‘Eric’ had been considered for promotion to second.
To date, no information has been found relating to Eric's progress through the Scout Training Scheme, or any camps and hikes that he might have attended. However, Eric made a name for himself during December 1954 when he was the only Scout to arrive at Finnart School on time (6.30pm) for a dance with the Finnart Guides. The rest of the Scouts thought that the dance started at 7.30pm and so Eric either endured or enjoyed being the sole Scout in a company of Guides for an hour before the others came.The only other reference to an ‘Eric’ was in the Fox Patrol Log book, which described a game of British Bulldog taking place in January 1957. It was stated that the captors had just wrestled ‘big Eric’ to the ground when the minister walked in, causing JR. Blake to switch games to something quieter. Nothing else is known about Eric. It is not known when he left the Troop or what he did after leaving school. Eric is present in the troop photograph of December 1953.
Paterson, Hugh
Information is lacking on Hugh Paterson’s background. His name was spelt Paterson or Patterson in the records, but Paterson seems the more likely spelling. A Hugh William Paterson was born in Campbeltown during 1944. If this was the same person, the family must have moved to the Greenock area at some point after his birth. It is not known where they lived or whether Hugh attended Greenock Academy or was in the 70th Wolf Cub pack.
Hugh was first mentioned in the Fox Patrol Log book as being last Scout of the patrol in June 1955 with Stephen Pearce as his PL. Based on the fact that he was working on his Tenderfoot Badge, it appears likely that he had joined the troop
relatively recently. By September 1955, Robin McGill was Hugh’s Patrol Leader. Hugh finally gained his Tenderfoot badge and was invested during November 1955. In October 1956, Hugh and the other members of the patrol gained special woggles to mark the fact that the Fox Patrol had been top patrol over the 1955-56 session. At that point, Ian Kirk was the acting PL, but it was not long before John Nisbet was appointed as the new Patrol Leader for the Fox. By that time, Hugh was 1st Scout in the Patrol.
Hugh gained his Second Class Badge at some point between February and October 1957. However, it is not known whether he completed the First Class Badge before he left the troop. It is also not known how many proficiency badges he might have gained.
Information on camps is fairly limited. However, Hugh was certainly at the Troop’s summer camp to Pitlochry in 1957, and was a member of a Panther Patrol led by John Nisbet. Unfortunately, Hugh fell ill during the camp and had to return home early. There is also photographic evidence to show that he was at the Easter camp held at Roseneath during 1957. Information on hikes is equally scarce. However, Hugh participated in the Troop’s hike along the “Right of Way” in November 1955, and passed his firelighting test during the hike.
During November 1956, a Halloween Party was organized where everyone everyone dressed up as a tramp. The activities included treacle scones, which probably involved suspending treacle scones in the air using sisal and challenging Scouts to eat them without using their hands. Hugh wrote in the Patrol Log that he got covered with treacle in the process. Actually, Hugh contributed significantly in the writing of the Fox Patrol log book and in one entry for October 1956, he included a cartoon indicating the principle of a game called platters which was highly popular at the time.
Hugh was still a member of the troop in September 1958, but his attendance was tailing off and it is likely that he resigned from the troop round about that time. It is not known what he did after that.
Only a couple of photographs have been found that include Hugh. One is from the Roseneath camp held in 1957, and the other from the Pitlochry camp of 1957.
Paterson Norton
A Norton Paterson was identified as one of the Cub Scouts forming up for a parade outside Finnart Church in June 1955. However, nothing is known about him and there is no evidence of him joining the troop. Having said that, the troop log for March 1955-Feb 1958 is missing and so he may well have been in the troop during that ‘gap’ period.
Pearce, Stephen
There is currently no background information on Stephen Pearce or his family. A Stephen Pearce was born in Cathcart (Glasgow) during 1938, and if this is the same person, the family must have moved to the Greenock area after he was born. There is circumstantial evidence to support this. A troop rota for the Spring of 1953 identifies Stephen as last Scout of the Falcon Patrol led by Douglas Brown. However, it is clear from the Troop Photograph taken in December 1953 that Stephen was one of the older Scouts present at that time. This fits in with him joining the troop when he was 14 or 15. Moreover, in January 1954, the Court of Honour could not choose between Stephen Pearce and Robert MacKinnon as the new PL of the
Curlew Patrol. In the end, the Court took the rather unusual step of giving each of the candidates a four-week trial at leading the patrol to see how they got on. The records do not specify what the result of that experiment was. However, there are indications that Stephen may have been promoted to Second of one of the Patrols rather than PL. By June 1954, Stephen would have been about 16 and it was decided to form a Bull Patrol consisting of Douglas Brown, Bob Miller and Stephen Pearce. It was also decided that Bob and Stephen would act as ‘stand in’ PL and Second respectively should they be needed by any of the patrols. However, at the beginning of 1954, Stephen returned to the main body of the troop as the newly promoted PL of the Fox patrol. The Fox Patrol remained under his leadership for the 1954-55 session and in June 1955, Stephen’s Second was Robin McGill.
In terms of the Scout Training scheme, Stephen gained his Second Class badge in January 1954, which suggests that he joined the troop without previous Scouting experience. It is not known whether he gained his First Class Badge, or whether he gained any proficiency badges. In terms of camps, there is a possibility that Stephen was at the Invereck weekend camp held in March 1954, as there is a photo which labels one of the Scouts present as ‘SP’. There is firmer evidence of him being present at the following Easter Camp held at Invereck, where he was in a patrol led by PL. Ian McFarlane. A report on this camp is available on the website along with photographs.
Stephen was chosen as one of the Scouts that gave a display of signaling at the social evening held on the 8th October 1954 to celebrate the Troop’s 21st anniversary.
The Fox Patrol Log contain a couple of titbits regarding Stephen. At a troop meeting in June 1955, there was a campfire during which a special song was sung in celebration of Stephen’s birthday. It was also stated that Steven Pearce received ‘a long overdue badge’. Unfortunately, the nature of the badge was not revealed. Another log entry later that month reported that “during patrol corners, an unnamed member of the Fox patrol put his PLs hat in the basin and turned on the water. When PL Pearce found out, the unnamed member of our patrol following the hat.” The author of that little piece was Robin McGill and it seems likely that he was the ‘criminal’.
Stephen left the troop on the 9th September 1955 when he would have been about 17. However, it not known what he did after that. Stephen is present in the Troop photo of Dec 1953 and photos taken at Easter Camp 1954.
Phillips, William Donald
Billy Phillips joined the troop from the Cubs on the 13th February 1959 and rose through the ranks to be a Patrol Leader and a Queen’s Scout. He was with the 70th from 1959 to 1964 and his progress is covered in more detail in the section covering 1960-66.
Rankin, Hamish
Hamish Rankin was in the 70th Scout Troop for six years between 1954 and 1960 and had various nicknames, such as “Sweetie’, ‘Tweet’ or ‘Tweetie’. The reasons for these are not known. One possibility for the nickname ‘Sweetie’ could have been if confectionary was being sold at the time by a firm called Rankin. Birth records contain no mention of a Hamish Rankin born in Greenock or Gourock. However, a Hamish Rankin was born in ‘College’ during 1943 and this might be the same individual. If so, the family must have moved to Greenock at some point after 1943. However, their address in Greenock is not known. It is assumed that Hamish was a pupil at Greenock Academy, but it is unlikely that he was a
member of the 70th Wolf Cub Pack.
Hamish transferred from another troop to the 70th during March 1954, and had already gained his Tenderfoot badge. He joined the Seal Patrol with T.L. Andy Whiteford as his PL. Assuming that Hamish was born in 1943, he would have been aged 10 or 11 when he joined. By June 1955, Hamish was 2nd Scout in a Fox patrol led by PL Stephen Pearce. A reorganization of the troop took place in September 1955 because of a large influx of Cubs, which resulted in Hamish becoming 1st Scout of the Fox Patrol with Robin McGill as his PL. However, this did not last long as Hamish was promoted to Second of the Seal Patrol within a month. At the end of April 1956, Hamish was considered for promotion to PL, but was pipped to the post by Scott Soutar. However, Hamish was eventually promoted to PL of the Falcon Patrol in October 1956, with A. Nicol as his Second. By this stage, he would have been about 13 and the Hamish/Nicol team led the Falcon Patrol for the next three years – an indication that most of the Scouts in the Troop at that time were relatively young. At the beginning of November 1957, Hamish was in the running for promotion to troop leader at the age of 14, but John Nisbet was eventually elected. Hamish eventually resigned as PL of the Falcon on the 1st of April 1960 to join a senior patrol which also included Trevor Jones, Kenneth Conway, S. Scott and Roy McFarlane.
Unfortunately, there are no records to show how far Hamish’s progressed through the Scout training scheme, although it would seem highly likely that he gained his Second and First Class Badges in order to gain promotion to Patrol Leader. It is also possible that he might have gained his Queen’s Scout Badge, but this needs to be investigated further. It is not known how many Proficiency Badges Hamish gained, but they certainly included the Designer, Swimmer and Handicraft badges.
Surviving records reveal that Hamish was very keen on outdoor Scouting and gained a reputation as being the Troop’s most enthusiastic camper. Indeed, the Fox Patrol Scribe, when describing a demonstration by J.R. Blake on how to make a sleeping bag, stated that “Tweet, the camping expert, got a chance to have a rest in it”. Hamish’s first recorded camp was the Invereck Easter Camp of 1954, where he was one of the younger Scouts in a patrol led by Douglas Brown. During this camp, he participated in an evening 8-mile hike to Glen Lean and back that lasted about 2.5 hours. On another occasion, Hamish and Ian McKenzie played Football Whist with Andy Whiteford and Bob Millar – an indication that the Scouts had been confined to their tents because of bad weather. Hamish then attended a short summer camp led by TL Douglas Brown at Everton in 1954. During the Ian Blake era, Hamish attended summer camps at Inveraray (1955), Benderloch (1958) and West Loch Tarbert (1959), as well as Easter camps at Invereck (1955), Roseneath (1957) and Blairmore (1958, 1959 & 1960). Unfortunately, there is no information regarding Summer and Easter camps undertaken during 1956, due to a missing Troop Log, but it seems likely that Hamish would have attended both camps. Having said that, Hamish did not attend the Pitlochry summer camp in 1957. This was probably because he was one of the 70th’s representatives at the World Jamboree which was being held at Sutton Coldfield that year. The 70th Scouts concerned (Hamish Rankin, Kenneth Conway, Alistair Shearer and Kenneth Johnston) were the first 70th Scouts to attend a World Jamboree as far as is known. There is also the possibility that Hamish might have been to the Tarbert summer camp of 1960. However, there are no surviving accounts of that camp to establish whether he did or not.
At the Invereck Easter camp of 1955, Hamish was in a Peewit patrol led by Sandy Whiteford. At the Blairmore Easter camp of 1958, Hamish led a Beaver patrol and was one of the Scouts who made pancakes on the campfire under the direction of Bob Miller. He also led a patrol at the Benderloch Summer camp of 1958 and the Tarbert Summer camp of 1959. During that camp, two Scouts in his patrol had to go home early due to illness and so Hamish and Brian Elliott decided to amalgamate their patrols to form the Duck-Billed Platypus patrol which slept in the Bell tent. This is the only recorded instance of a Scout Patrol camping in the bell tent. Hamish and ASM Jim Harvey also left the camp for a couple of days to climb Ben Nevis. It is likely that they spent one day travelling to Glen Nevis and setting up camp, then spent the next day climbing the mountain and returning to Benderloch. They arrived back in camp “just in time to miss Tea”. At the Blairmore Easter camp of 1959, Hamish only attended for a long weekend, possibly indicative of him either studying or working. By this point, he would have been about 16. Hamish also visited the Blairmore Easter Camp of 1960 for a couple of days, during which he joined the Rhinoceros Patrol.
Unfortunately, there are no surviving records of the various hikes and weekend camps that Hamish attended during his time as a Scout, other than a brief mention of a weekend camp in June 1955.
Considering Hamish’s reputation as a camper, it should come as no surprise that he led the 70th Patrol that came a creditable second in the Shannon Cup competition of June 1957. As well as Hamish, the patrol included Jim Harvey, Alistair Shearer, John Nisbet, Brian Elliott, A. Campbell, A. Nicol and Jim Blair. Hamish may also have been in the patrol that won the Shannon Cup in 1956. Unfortunately, the Troop Log covering that year is missing and so it is not possible to identify the patrol concerned. A special District event that probably appealed to Hamish was a Scout Display on camping that was put on at the Rankin Park during May 1957. On the Friday night before the display, the troops set up their own contributions and Hamish was one of the 70th Scouts who camped overnight in the Park to keep guard.
Hamish must have ‘starred’ from the very moment that he joined Scouts as he was chosen for a special patrol that broke the flag at the beginning of the social evening held during October 1954 to celebrate the 21st anniversary of the troop. Hamish was also present at another special event that took place on the 4th December 1959 when a Farewell Social was held for J.R. Blake and his family, who were departing to Trinidad for three years. On a point of trivia, Hamish might have been the only Scout in the troop to have experienced Brian Hodgson, Ian Blake and Bob Miller as his Scout Master.
The surviving records provide some relevant titbits on Hamish. For example, the Court of Honour minutes for October 1956, suggest that Hamish came up with the idea of a Tramp’s party with a prize for the best-dressed Tramp, while the Fox Patrol Log of April 1959 reported that Hamish received a severe gash in the chin when playing British Bulldog. As a result, Hamish was driven to hospital for stitches. The COH minutes also indicate that Hamish was assigned the task of providing ice cream and spoons for the Halloween party in 1959. He must have carried this out satisfactorily as he was asked to do the same for the Scout Dance held in January 1960.
Hamish eventually resigned from the Troop at the end of March 1960 when he would have been about 17. Hamish had completed a Cadet Scouters Course before his resignation but it is not known whether he continued in Scouting with another troop after that. Neither is it known what he did after leaving school. Hamish is present in several photographs from the 1950s, such as those taken at Easter Camps (1954, 1955 and 1959), Summer Camps (1954, 1955, 1957), the World Jamboree 1957, and JRBs Farewell Social 1959.
Robb, Alistair
Alistair Robb joined the Troop in 1958 and was promoted to Second by 1960 (see the section covering 1960-66).
Robertson, Stuart
Background information on Stuart Robertson is lacking. However, a David Stuart Robertson born in Gourock during 1940 might be the said individual. On the other hand, a Stewart Thomson Robertson was born in Greenock East during 1941 and both spellings (Stuart and Stewart) are used in the available records. At present, it is assumed that Stuart Robertson born in Gourock is more likely to be the Stuart/Stewart mentioned in the records.
Stuart was first mentioned in the Troop log book as belonging to the Fox patrol led by PL Alistair Duncan following a reorganisation of the troop in June 1951. It is likely that Stuart moved up to the troop on that date and that the reorganization was prompted by a large intake of Cubs from the 70th Pack. Over the summer of 1952, there was
another troop reshuffle that saw Stuart transferred to the Seagull Patrol with David Slater as his PL. By about April 1953, Stuart was 2nd Scout with Sandy Whiteford as PL. In March 1954, Stuart was considered for promotion to Second, but it was Robert McKinnon that got the nod on that occasion. However, Stuart was duly promoted to Second of the Seagull Patrol in May 1954 with Neil Cook as his PL.
In terms of his progress through the Scout Training scheme, Stuart gained his Second Class Badge in December 1953 and was duly ‘ducked’. The troop log is missing from Mar 1955-Feb 1957, and so it is not known how much further Stuart got through the training scheme. It is also not known how many proficiency badges he gained, but he certainly gained the Missioner Badge in January 1954.
The available records reveal that Stuart was one of 8 younger Scouts who attended the Junior Xmas Party in December Dec 1953, and that he was one of 7 Scouts who put on a display of signalling at the social evening held in October 1954 to celebrate the Troop’s 21st anniversary.
Unfortunately, the Troop Log covering the period from March 1955 to February 1957 is missing and so it is not known when Stuart eventually left the troop or whether he was promoted to PL. The latter seems unlikely as he is not mentioned in the Court of Honour minutes covering that ‘gap’ period.
​Stuart is present in the photograph taken of the Fox patrol in May 1952, and the troop photograph taken in Dec 1953.
Rowallan, Lord
On the 19th June 1954, the Chief Scout Lord Rowallan paid a visit to Greenock. During the Chief Scout’s visit, he presented Queen’s Scout badges to five 70th Scouts – Andy Whiteford, Douglas Brown, Ian Mcfarlane, Robert Millar and Sandy Whiteford.
Rugman, M.
An M. Rugman has been identified as being in the troop during the 1950s. It is likely that this is Michael Andrew Rugman who was born in Greenock West during 1941. If so, he would normally have joined the troop when he was 11 during 1952. However, he was certainly not in the troop during 1952 or 1953, suggesting that he joined in 1954 or 1955. Michael attended the Invereck Easter camp of 1955, and was in an Owl patrol led by Graham White and Neville Mort. On the Sunday, Michael did not attend the church service and remained in camp to help make the dinner. Unfortunately, there are no other references to Michael in
the records. Having said that, the Troop Logbook covering March 1955 to February 1957 is missing, and he may well have been in the troop during that period. Therefore, it is not known when he left the troop or what he did after leaving school. The only photograph of him was taken at Invereck during 1955, and he is turned away from the camera.
Runcie, Albert
Albert was the younger brother of Milton Runcie and lived at 181 Eldon Street, Greenock when he was in the 70th. His father was Mr. W. Milton Runcie who was a dental surgeon. Albert Runcie is thought to have joined the troop in 1956 and rose through the ranks to become Troop Leader, then an ASM during the 1960s – see the section covering 1960-66 for a more detailed summary.
Runcie, Milton
Milton Runcie was the older brother of Albert Runcie and was born in Greenock West during 1939. He lived at 181 Eldon Street, Greenock when he was in the 70th, and his father was Mr. W. Milton Runcie who was a dental surgeon. It is assumed that he attended Greenock Academy, but it is not known whether he was in the 70th Cub Pack or not. It is not known when he joined the Troop and it is possible that he might have transferred from another troop during late 1951 or early 1952. Alternatively, he might have joined with no previous Scouting experience.
Milton was first identified as a member of the Falcon Patrol in May 1952 with Douglas Brown as his PL. However, by September 1952, he had been transferred to the Wolf Patrol with Douglas MacNeill as his PL. By the Spring of 1953, he was in the Curlew Patrol with Jim Whitefield as PL. He was still in the Curlew Patrol in June 1954, but with Neville Mort as his PL.
In terms of Milton’s progress through the Scout Training Scheme, it is not known when he gained his Tenderfoot Badge, but he gained his Second Class Badge in January 1954. It is not known whether he gained his First Class Badge as he may have been present in the troop during the ‘Gap years’ of the missing Troop Log. In terms of camping experience, Milton attended the Invereck Easter Camp of 1954 where he was in a Patrol led by Ian McFarlane. . During the camp, Milton gave a bible reading at one of the morning Scouts Owns.
Milton was still with the troop in June 1954 and it is not known when he left, due partly to the missing Troop Log book covering 1955-1957. It’s also not known what he did after leaving the 70th. Milton is present in the photograph taken of the troop in December 1953.
Russell, Ronald
Ronald Russell was in the 70th troop from 1958 to 1961 - see records covering 1960-66 for more details.
Scott, Jack
Jack Scott was in the 70th troop from 1957 to 1961 – see the records covering 1960-66 fro more details.
Scott, Mr.
It is not known whether Mr. Jack Scott was related to any of the Scotts present in the Troop during the late 1950s. In November 1957, Mr. Scott showed the troop a film entitled, ‘Conquest of Everest’. This was presumably successful as he showed another film in March 1958. This time, it was the Douglas Bader film, “Reach for the Sky”. Because of the number of reels and the total length of the film, the show did not end until 10 PM. Nevertheless, it was greatly enjoyed by those who attended. A “warm ‘Bravo!’ was given for Mr Scott for his kindness in showing the film.”
Scott, Robin
No background information on Robin Scott is known regarding his family background, address, school or date of birth. It is also not known whether he was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack. He may well have joined the troop in June 1954 as he was identified that month as a member of the Curlew Patrol with Neville Mort as his PL. He also attended the Easter camp held at Invereck during April 1955, where he was in an Owl Patrol led by Graham White and Neville Mort. However, there are no other references to him in the available records and it is not known when he left the troop or what he achieved when he was in the troop. Such information might only be gained by recovering the missing troop log book covering March 1955- February 1957.
Scott, Stuart
It is believed that Stuart’s full name was Stuart George Scott and that he was born in Gourock during 1943. Information is currently lacking on his family background, address and school, but it is known that he was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack. Stuart moved up to the Troop at the end of March 1954, along with John Nisbet and Hugh Kerr, suggesting that they were probably classmates. It is not known which patrol Stuart initially joined, but changes to the patrols were made during June 1954, which resulted in him being in the Seal Patrol with Graham White as his PL. It is not known for certain whether Stuart
remained in the Seal Patrol throughout the next three years, but it seems likely as he was considered for promotion to Second of the Seal Patrol in February 1957. However, the actual promotion did not take place until June 1957. Stuart was finally promoted to PL of the Seagull patrol in September 1959, probably with R. Harvey as his Second. Stuart resigned as PL on the 1st of April 1960 to join a newly formed Senior Scout Patrol made up of T. Jones, K. Conway, S. Scott, H. Rankin and Roy McFarlane.
In terms of his progress through the Scout Training Scheme, it is not known when Stuart gained his Tenderfoot Badge, but it was certainly before September 1954. He passed his Second Class badge in May 1957, but it is not known whether he also passed his First Class Badge. However, this seems likely as he completed his First Class hike during Easter 1959 and was also promoted to PL. It is not known how many Proficiency Badges he achieved, although he certainly gained the Swimmer Proficiency Badge.
It is likely that Stuart attended the various Scouts Owns and parades that occurred when he was with the 70th. Indeed, Stuart was one of the volunteers representing the 70th Scouts at the Seafarers service in the mid Kirk during April 1959.
The first camp that Stuart attended was likely to be the short 4-day summer camp held at Everton in 1954. After that, there is a shortage of records covering 1955 and 1956, so it is not known whether he attended any of the camps that would have been organized during 1956. In 1957, he attended the Roseneath Easter camp, as well as the Pitlochry Summer Camp. At the latter camp, he was in a very small Woodpecker Patrol made up of Brian Elliot, I. Miller and Stuart Scott. At the camp, Stuart and Jim Blair worked on the construction of a tree house. Stuart also attended the Blairmore Easter camps of 1958 and 1959. At the latter camp, Stuart completed his First-Class hike with Philip Dry and brought back some Sunday papers which were very welcome. Much to Philip Dry’s indignation, a large and weighty stone was found at the foot of his rucksack. It is not clear whether it was Stuart that placed it there or whether somebody else did the nasty before they even set out. There is evidence of Stuart taking part in an overnight hike with Ken Conway and R. Muir during the Easter of 1960, by which time he would have been in the newly formed Senior Scout patrol. Scouts who were at the Blairmore Easter Camp that year met the trio in Ardentinny. The route of the hike was not revealed although it might have involved hiking to Carrick Castle and back. Unfortunately, no records survive of what other activities the Senior Scout patrol undertook after it was formed on the 1st April 1960.
Stuart was still with the 70th in April 1960, but it is not known when he left. It is also not known what he did on leaving school. Stuart is included in photographs taken at Everton (1954), Roseneath (1957), Pitlochry (1957) and Blairmore (1959).
Shearer, Alistair
Alastair Shearer was born in Greenock East during 1940. However, it is not known where he stayed or what his parents did in terms of employment. It is also not known whether he attended Greenock Academy or joined the 70th Wolf Cub Pack. It is likely that Alistair joined the troop at some point during 1951 as he is first mentioned in the Troop Log in February 1952 when a competition was run to test various Scouting skills. It was reported that “Scout Alastair Shearer won the individual championship by repeating the ten Scout Laws in 35 seconds!” As a result, Alastair won the GSMs Cup for best Scout that year.
​It is not known which patrol Alastair was in when he first joined the troop, but he was in the Wolf patrol in May 1952 with D. McNeill as his PL. During September 1952, Alastair was transferred to the Curlew Patrol where James Whitefield was his PL. Alastair was promoted to Second of the Falcon patrol in June 1954, where Sandy Whiteford was his PL. At some
point between March and September 1955, Alastair was promoted to Patrol Leader, but it was not stated of which patrol. Alastair resigned as Patrol Leader round about January 1957 to become a Junior ASM.
In terms of Alastair’s progress through the Scout Training Scheme, it is not known when he gained his Tenderfoot, Second Class and First Class Badges, but it is likely that he gained his First Class Badge during late 1954 or early 1955. He then went on to complete his Queen’s Scout Badge during March 1957. It is not known how many proficiency badges Alastair achieved, but they included the Meteorology and Ambulance badges.
There is very little information provided in the available records regarding camps and hikes. However, it is known that Alastair completed his first class hike with Ian McKenzie during September 1954. The route involved hiking from Ardentinny to Sandbank, and camping overnight at Invereck. Ian made a bit of a splash by falling in the River Eachaig when he tried swinging on a creeper at the campsite. Alistair also attended the Invereck Easter camp of 1955. On the Sunday of this camp, Alastair missed out on the church service and stayed in camp to cook the dinner. He was also one of 5 Scouts who built a raft which was called the ‘Basin’ (based on the Christian names of the constructors - Billy McEwing, Alastair Shearer, Sandy Whiteford, Ian McKenzie and Neville Mort). The raft was duly launched into the River Echaig and given its trials. According to the log report ‘All those who dared to go on it had to swim back.’,
It is not known whether Alastair attended any other camps, but his most memorable camping experience would have been the World Jamboree of 1957 at Sutton Coldfield, where he was one of the Troop’s four representatives. As far as is known, those four were the first 70th Scouts to attend a World Jamboree.
In terms of competitions, Alastair was a member of the 70th football team that won the District football competition for the 1952-53 session, and was also in the team during the 1953-54 session. In addition, he was one of the eight Scouts selected to give a semaphore display at the social evening held in October 1954 to celebrate the troop’s 21st anniversary. Alistair was a member of the 70th Patrol that came a creditable second in the Shannon Cup competition of June 1957.
It is highly likely that Alistair was a regular attender at the Troop’s Church parades and Scouts Owns, and he is present in a photograph of one such parade outside Finnart Church in June 1955. Alistair also did his bit when it came to fund raising. During Bob-a-Job week of 1953, he was one of the seven Scouts that manned two shoeshine boxes on Greenock’s main shopping street. He also helped man a stall for Odds and Ends at a Jumble Sale held towards the end of 1955, while in March 1956 he helped organize a whist drive to raise funds. He was one of three PLs that attended that event in uniform. Normally, the smartest looking Scouts were selected for that role.
Alistair probably resigned as Patrol Leader during the summer of 1957, but remained as part of the leader team between 1957-1959, during which he was involved in inspections, running campfires and other such activities. It is probable that he left the group in the summer of 1959.
It is not known what Alistair did after leaving Scouting, but he eventually retired to live in Irvine. The author met Alastair at his house during 2006 or 2007 and Alastair provided several of the photographs on the website covering the World Jamboree at Sutton Coldfield in 1957. Alistair also stated that it was unusual for a 70th Scout to be living in the east end of Greenock. He also mentioned that there was an element of snobbery, not so much amongst the Scouts, but from some parents who stopped their sons socializing with him.
Alastair appears in a number of photographs on the web site such as the troop and patrol photos taken in 1952 and 1953, the football team of 1952-53, Easter Camp 1955, Church parade 1955 and the World Jamboree of 1957.
Shepherd, Cameron
Cameron Shepherd was a Scout from another Greenock troop who attended the 1957 World Jamboree at Sutton Coldfield. He is identified in some of the photographs relating to that event.
Slater, David G.
Birth records suggest that David Slater’s full name might have been David Gordon Slater, and that he was born in Gourock during 1937. He was one of three brothers, the others being Harry and John, all of whom joined the troop. It is likely that David joined the troop in 1948, possibly only months after the troop was re-established in 1947. David’s experiences as a Scout are covered in greater detail in the section covering 1947-1954. In brief, David became PL of the Seagull Patrol and then joined the Rovers. It is not known exactly when David resigned as a PL and became an Acting ASM, but it was probably between October and December 1952. The first clear reference to David as an Acting ASM is given in a Troop Log entry for June 1953, which stated that he helped at several camps at Everton during that summer. Unfortunately, no detailed records of these camps are known to exist. At this point, David would have been aged 16 and
the records suggest that he was the only assistant that Brian Hodgson had in running the troop during 1953. Indeed, it was announced in October 1953 that David would take every third meeting. During September 1954, it was revealed that Brian would be resigning at the end of the month, but by this time both David Slater and Andy Whiteford were acting as ASMs, and they were to be joined by Douglas Brown and Bob Miller. There are some indications that David may have gained his warrant as an ASM during the latter half of 1954. However, this needs to be confirmed.
The available Log books mention David a number of times in his role as acting ASM. For example, when DC J.J. Swan visited the troop in October 1953, a team of Scouters (Brian Hodgson, JJ Swan, Victor Clark and David Slater) took on a team of Scouts (Graham White, Neil Cook S. Bacon and Bob Millar) at a knot tying challenge. The result was not revealed. In November 1953, there was a bit of a role reversal at inspection when Brian Hodgson and Dave were inspected by the Troop Leader Andy Whiteford instead of the Scouters inspecting the patrols. In December 1953, Dave was present at the annual Scout dance with the Finnart Guides. Finally, on one of the Saturdays during November 1954, David offered a practical and theoretical pioneering course for PLs and Seconds. In the morning they did practical pioneering at the ‘quarry’, and in the afternoon they did theoretical work back at David’s house.
The Court of Honour (COH) minutes first mention David as an ASM in November 1953, although he was still officially an Acting ASM. He was then a regular member of the COH until November 1954. David took responsibility for camping and attendance during the 1954-55 session, and, in October 1954, David stated that the troop was 37 strong and that recruiting would have to stop once they reached 40, due to the small size of the hall. Following this, there was a debate over the possibility of having two troops meeting on different nights (like the Cubs). However, the resulting vote was 8-1 against. On another occasion during November 1954, concerns were raised about David testing his younger brother (Harry Slater) on his Second Class, but it was not reported what was decided regarding that.
It is likely that David was present at a number of camps, other than the ones already mentioned at Everton. For example, he was present at a weekend camp to Invereck during March 1954 when the campsite was being investigated as a suitable sire for Easter Camp. However, it is possible that other weekend camps to Evertyon and elsewhere went unrecorded.
One of the last events that David attended was a whist drive that had been organized by the PLs in December 1954. His final troop night was on the 18th February 1955. At the campfire, one of the other ASMs added a verse to the QM store along the lines of ‘There was Dave, Dave, happily had to leave’. However, it was clear that the troop was sorry to see him go. Jim Harvey wrote in the Seal Patrol Log that David’s departure would be a great loss to the troop, and at the end of the meeting David was given ‘a hearty Bravo’ for his service with the Troop. David was leaving because his family was moving from Greenock to Edinburgh. It is not known whether David continued his Scouting in Edinburgh, or what he did after leaving the 70th.
David probably kept in touch with the troop for a while after leaving. For example,there is photographic evidence of David at the troop’s Easter Camp to Invereck in 1955. However, this may only have been a visit to help take the camping gear to the campsite.
The website contains a troop photograph taken in December 1953 with David Slater as an Acting ASM. At that point, he would still have been 16. He was also identified as being present in a photograph taken at a recce camp to Invereck in 1954, as well as Easter Camp 1955.
Slater, Harry
Harry Slater was born in Gourock during 1942 and was the youngest of the three Slater brothers who joined the troop. It is not known where he lived in Gourock or whether he was a pupil at Greenock Academy. However, it is known that he was a member of the 70th B Pack which met on Thursday evenings and that he gained his Leaping Wolf. Harry moved up to the troop on Thursday 1st April 1954, along with J. Kirk and Trevor Jones, suggesting that they were in the same class at school. By June 1954, he was reported to be in the Seagull patrol with Neil Cook as his PL. Apart from that, very little information is provided in the available records on Harry, other than a discussion in the Court of Honour during November 1954 on whether David Slater should be testing his younger brother on his Second Class. No further references were made to Harry and it is not known when he departed the troop. It should be added that the troop log for March 1955-February 1958 is currently missing and so it cannot be assumed that Harry left the troop in 1954 or 1955. It is possible that Harry is present in one of the Pack photographs taken during the 1950s. However, he has not been identified to date. It is also not known what he did after leaving school.
Slater, John
John Slater was the eldest of the three Slater brothers who joined the 70th. It has not yet been confirmed when he was born, but it is possible that it might have been in 1933 or 1934. If so, it is likelt that John was one of the Scouts that joined the 70th once it was restarted in 1947. He may even have been in the troop before it amalgamated with the 59th. Further details on John’s Scouting career in the Troop are provided in the section covering 1947-1954. In short, he was promoted to Patrol Leader (possibly of the Seal Patrol) and was then asked to restart the Curlew Patrol in January 1950. During that year, Brian Hodgson and John were largely involved in running the Troop as PLs. John resigned in September 1950, but retained ties with the
Group and was listed as a Rover Scout in 1953. Finally, John has been identified in a photograph of Scouts taken at the gates of Invereck House at the start of the Easter Camp of 1955. He is in ‘civvies’ which suggests that he either gave them a visit or was helping them push their gear on the trek cart from Dunoon to Invereck.
A number of photographs on the website include John Slater, such as the troop and group photographs taken in May 1949, a Cub hike up Corlic Hill on 21st May 1949 (where he was helping out) and a photograph of Scouts at the gates of Invereck in 1955.
In October Oct 1954, Mr. Slater made a donation to the Troop such that a Social event held on the 1st December 1954 would make a slight profit. It is assumed that Mr. Slater was father to John, David and Harry Slater.
Slater, Mr.
Soutar, Scott
Birth records suggest that Scott’s full name was James Scott Soutar and that he was born in Gourock during 1942. Other than that, there is no background information on Scott’s family, address or school. It is not known whether Scott was in the 70th Wolf Cub Pack or not, but it is likely that he joined the troop in the summer of 1953 as he was invested in October 1953 along with K. Johnson, J. Lee and R. Hartley. It is not known which patrol he joined initially, but following changes to the patrols in June 1954, he was 1st Scout of the Seagull Patrol with Neil Cook as his PL. It is not known when
Scott was promoted to Second, but it must have occurred before November 1955 as he was then being considered by the Court of Honour as a potential Patrol Leader. He did not get the nod on that occasion, but in April 1956, he moved from the Seagull Patrol to the Curlew Patrol as an ‘Acting Patrol Leader’. It was not until October 1956 that this appointment was made official. The reasons for this are not clear and the records show that another three Scouts were in a similar position. One possible explanation is that the troop was generally quite young in 1956, and several Scouts were getting promoted to PL at an unusually young age. It is possible that they were appointed temporarily to ensure that they could handle the responsibility.
As far as camping is concerned, Scott attended a 4-day summer camp led by Douglas Brown at Everton in 1954, but there is no evidence of him attending other camps. Having said that, the Troop Log covering 1955-1957 is missing and so there may have been other camps that he attended, especially in 1956.
The available records show that Scott was one of the 8 younger Scouts who attended the annual Xmas Junior party in December 1953. It was also revealed in late January 1954 that the troop had “found a soloist at last at the campfire in Scott Souter who sang ‘The Lord’s my Shepherds’ to the humming of the troop”. Scott would have been 11 or 12 at that point.
Unfortunately, it is not known how far Scott progressed through the Training Scheme or how many badges he gained. He eventually left the troop during February 1957 at the age of 14 or 15, but it is not known what he did after leaving school. Scott Soutar is present in the troop photograph of Dec 1953.
Steel, Eoin C.
Eoin C Steel was a former 70th Scout and ASM who was with the 70th during the 1930s (see earlier section.) he was invited to participate in a parade and Scout’s Own held at Finnart Church on Sunday 10th Oct 1954 to celebrate the Troop’s coming-of-age (21st anniversary). Eoin read the Old Testament lesson from Exodus III 1-15.
Stewart, Reverend D.H. (MA)
The Rev. D.H. Stewart was minister of Finnart Church from the late 1930s to the 1960s, and was also the troop’s chaplain. He lived at 40 Campbell Street and proved a very strong supporter of the Scout Group throughout his time at Finnart Church. The entries here relate to events that took place between 1954 and 1959. Entries relating to the 1930s, 1940s, 1947-1954 and the 1960s are provided in the relevant sections.
The Troop logs provide the following information covering the period 1954-1959
*On Sunday 7th Mar 1954, there was a Scouts Own at Finnart Church where Brian Hodgson preached the sermon. The Rev Stewart was also present. The Scouts Own commenced at 7:45 PM and finished at approximately 8:15 PM with a blessing from Mr Stewart.
*On the 19th March 1954, the Rev Stewart visited the troop meeting and gave a talk on the Communist Scout Paul Garland, who had become headline news as he had been dismissed from the Scout Movement. This issue was even raised in parliament. Paul was a Patrol Leader and Queen’s Scout in an English Troop, but was dismissed by his local District as they viewed the aims of the Communist Party to be incompatible with the Scout Law and Promise. It would have been interesting to have heard the Rev. Stewart’s ‘take’ on the issue. Unfortunately, this was not specified in the records.It is believed that the Rev Stewart talked to the Troop during campfire and that he might have subsequently visited the troop once per month to give a campfire yarn.
*On the 8th October 1954, the 70th celebrated their 21st anniversary with a social evening. The programme opened with short introductory talks from Victor Clark and Rev Sewart, and ended with a benediction from the minister.
*On Sunday 10th October 1954, a parade and church service were held to mark the 21st anniversary of the troop. The service was conducted by former Scout Master and Group Scout Master. It is not indicated whether Mr. Stewart played an active role in the service, but he would certainly have been present.
Unfortunately, the troop log covering March 1955 to February 1957 is missing, but the Fox Patrol Log has the following information.
*At the troop meeting on the 18th of January 1957, the usual rough game of British Bulldog was in progress when “the minister walked in, so Skipper stopped the game and went on to something quieter. It was Port and Starboard.”
*On the 22nd of February 1957 it was stated that a dance would be held on 1st March, which would start at 7:30 PM and finish up at 11 PM (by the ministers request).
*On the 15th November 1957, it was announced that both Skipper and Mr Stewart were very pleased at the high turnout at the recent Armistice Day Parade and Church service at Finnart Church.
The above information provides a flavour of the Rev. Stewart’s connection and relationship with the 70th. It should be noted that there were many other church services, parades and Scouts Owns that were not described in the Troop Logs, and it is also the case that the minister made more visits to troop meetings than were actually recorded.
Stoddart, Raymond
Raymond Stoddart was mentioned in the troop log as a Queen’s Scout from Glasgow who visited the Troop on the 2nd Apr 1954. The Seal Patrol Log also identified him visiting the troop with DC J.J. Swan and Victor Clark on the 28th May 1954 to discuss the county flag competition.
Swan, J.J.
J.J. Swan was a long serving and well-respected ADC and DC in Greenock Scouting and is mentioned in other sections. During the 1950s, he was District Commissioner and his name cropped up fairly regularly in the available log books. The following list these in chronological order for the 1954-1959 period.
*On the 4th June 1954, the JJ Swan visited a troop meeting to wish the troop luck in the County Flag Competition.
*On the 8th October 1954, DC JJ Swan was a guest at the troop’s social event, which was organised to celebrate the troop’s 21st anniversary. As part of the programme, a session of 20 questions took place with a panel made up of DC JJ Swan, Cub Mistress McBride, Mrs Whiteford and Mr. Lee. Mr. Swan also gave a short speech to the parents just before the interval.
*On Sunday evening, 30th January 1955, there was a 70th Scout’s Own held in Finnart Church. The address was given by JJ Swan who also brought some of his own Scouts along from the 45th.
*On the 3rd June 1955, Mr Swan visited the Troop meeting to provide information on the World Scout Jamboree that would take place in two years time. Note that four of the 70th Scouts eventually attended the Jamboree.
*On the 2nd December 1955, JJ Swan visited the troop meeting to give a talk about uniform and the forthcoming Jubilee Jamboree.
*On the 11th April 1958, JJ Swan visited the troop meeting along with two ADCs. During patrol corners, the three visitors talked to each patrol in turn. At the end of the meeting, Mr Swan talked about the forthcoming Chief Scout’s visit to Greenock.
*On the 20th of November 1959, the DC Mr Swan came along on Troop night to test the 10 Scouts who were tackling the Quest Emblem. They all passed.
The list above gives an inkling of some of the duties carried out by J.J. Swan as DC. It should also be noted that he would also be visiting other troops for similar reasons, as well as running his own Scout Troop. Note also that very little is known about the period between March 1955 to February 1957 due to the missing troop log covering that period.
Taylor, Allan
Birth records indicate that an Allan Taylor was born in Gourock during 1947. However, it cannot be assumed that this is the same individual, and background information is lacking. Allan was reported to be in the Seagull patrol, and was invested on the 24th April 1959. He is also known to have attended the Tarbert Summer Camp of 1959. However, no further references to him were made in the available records, which suggests that he departed the troop at some point during 1959. It is not known what he did after leaving Scouts.
Thomson, Edmund
Nothing is known about Edmund Thomson or his family, and there is no evidence of an Edmund Thomson being born in Scotland between 1940 and 1945. Therefore, it is assumed that the family must have moved to Gourock or Greenock after Edmund was born. Edmund Thomson moved up from the Cub Pack to the Troop on the 17th September1954 to join the Seagull Patrol. His investiture was rather special as it was carried out by Group Scout Leader Victor Clark during the social evening held on the 8th October 1954 to celebrate the troop’s 21st anniversary. However, there are no other references to him in the troop records and it is not known when he left the troop. There is no troop log covering the period March 1955 to February 1957, and he could have left at any point during that period. Edmund was present in a photograph taken of a parade forming up outside Finnert Church in 1955. It is not known what he did after leaving school.
Tibbles, Colin
Colin’s full name was Colin Ian Tibbles and he was born in Gourock during 1943. No further information has yet been obtained regarding his family background, address or school.
Colin was not a member of the 70th Wolf Cub Cub pack, and was introduced to the Troop by Ronald Grey during October 1954. Colin was then placed in the Seal Patrol with Graham White as his PL. Colin was still with the Seal Patrol in April 1955, but a lack of records covering 1955-57 means that it is not possible to state whether he was ever transferred to another patrol or gained any promotion.
Colin passed his Tenderfoot on the 12th November 1954 and was invested on the same night. He then passed several tests towards his Second Class Badge. However, it is not known whether he completed the badge. It is also not known whether he earned any proficiency badges.
Similarly, there is very little information regarding any hikes or camps that Colin may have attended. However, he was present at the Easter Camp held at Invereck during April 1955, where he was in a Peewit patrol led by Sandy Whiteford.
Colin’s name also cropped up in the Court of Honour minutes for October 1957, in which SM J.R. Blake told the PLs that “certain boys must be
watched and, if the worst came to the worst, they would go out the door quick”. Mr Blake had his eye on 'Kirk and Tibbles' as being the 'ringleaders’ (presumably of whatever indisciplines were occurring). Although there is a lack of written records covering the 1955-57 period, some photographs survive which show that Colin attended the Troop’s Easter Camp at Invereck in 1955, as well as a parade outside Finnart Church during June 1955. It is not known when Colin left the troop or what he did after leaving Scouts.
Weir, Ronnie
Dougal Urquhart joined the troop at the beginning of September 1959. A more detailed account of his time in the Scouts is covered in the section covering 1960-66.
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Urquhart, Dougal
There is not much in the way of background concerning Ronnie Weir. Birth records suggest that his full name might have been Ian Ronald W. Weir, who was born in Gourock during 1947. However, that remains to be confirmed. It is not known what his parents did as a living or where the family lived when Ronnie was with the 70th. It is also not known for certain whether Ronnie was a pupil at Greenock Academy, but he was certainly a Wolf Cub in the 70th Pack. Ronnie moved up to the Troop in February 1959 along with Billy Phillips. It is not specified which Patrol he joined on that date, but it may have been the Fox patrol as he was in that patrol when he attended the Blairmore Easter Camp at the end of March 1959. Ronnie returned home a couple of days before the end of camp. However, it is possible that this was always the intention as this was his first experience of camping with the Scouts.
The Fox Patrol Log book contains a couple of references to Ronnie. During Bob-a-Job Week in 1959, Ronnie raising a highly respectable 7/- toward the patrol total of £2–10- 6. That would correspond to £16 and £57 respectively in terms of 2021 values. In April 1959, Ronnie’s Patrol Leader was John Nisbet. At the beginning of September 1959, Ronnie was transferred from the Fox Patrol to the Kingfisher Patrol.
It is not known when exactly Ronnie left the troop, but it must have been during the 1959-60 session as he was not included in the troop rota provided in September 1960. It is not known whether he transferred to another troop or what he did after leaving school. Unfortinately, there are no photographs showing Ronnie as a Scout.
White, Graham
It is believed that Graham White’s full name might have been James Graham White and that he was born in Greenock West in 1940. However, his address at the time is not known, and there is no information regarding his parents. It is not known for certain whether he was a pupil at Greenock Academy, but he was certainly in the 70th’s Wolf Cub pack. More details of Graham's Scouting experiences prior to 1954 are provided in the section covering 1947-1954.
Graham was promoted to Patrol Leader of the Seal Patrol with J. Harvey as his Second in May 1954. By the summer of 1954, he had gained his First Class Badge, Scout Cords (obtained in January 1954) and 16 Proficiency Badges, including
the Swimmer, Missioner, Stamp Collector, Bookman, Starman, Jobman, Missioner, Linguist, Marksman and Observer. He had also been one of the runner ups for the Coronation Cup for Best Scout during the 1953-54 session, while his patrol had come second for best patrol of the year.
Considering Graham’s remarkably fast progress (he was still only 14 years old), it seems inevitable that he should have gained the Bushman’s Thong and Queen’s Scout Badge. However, there is no evidence of that from the available troop records. Moreover, it appears that Graham left the troop in the summer of 1955. The reasons for his departure are not known, but if he transferred to another Troop it is highly likely that he would have gained his Queen's Scout Badge.
It is not possible to identify all the camps, hikes and outdoor activities that Graham might have participated in, as these were rarely recorded in the log books. However, it is known that Graham attended the Invereck weekend camp of March 1954, as well as the Invereck Easter Camp in April 1954. At the latter camp, Graham provided a bible reading at one of the daily Scouts Owns. Graham also attended the Invereck Easter Camp in 1955 where he was joint PL of an Owl patrol with Neville Mort. Finally, he was one of the three 70th Scouts to attend the Blair Atholl Jamborette in 1954. Not surprisingly, Graham was a member of the hand-picked patrol that broke the flag at the social event held in October 1954 to celebrate the 70th’s 21st anniversary.
Graham wrote the Seal Patrol Log during the latter half of 1953, then became scribe for the the Troop Log from December 1953 to March 1954. His entries for both log books were supported by a series of excellent cartoons that illustrated his artistic skills. He sometimes used his cartoons to take the mickey out of the leaders. For example, in January 1954, he drew a cartoon of Brian Hodgson that emphasised how Brian’s ‘few hairs’ were ‘expertly arranged over (his) bald patch’. Brian took this in good spirit and ‘praised’ Graham for “one of the neatest pieces of slander ever executed by a Scout”. He then added that “Second White duly received his just reward!” No further details were supplied! Graham also wrote an account of Easter Camp 1954 and this was clearly well received because he was asked to do another stint as Troop Scribe from the summer of 1954 to March 1955. At that point, a new troop log was required and it seems almost certain that a new troop log book was started in March 1955. Unfortunately, this log book is not present in the available records and it would be fascinating to recover it as Graham would have probably started it off. The log book concerned probably covered the period March 1955 to February 1957 and its recovery would shed light on a period that is relatively light on detail at present.
Graham was still in the troop during June 1955, and helped to organize a game of cricket in McAuley’s field, where there were about 20 Scouts on each side. However, he must have left the Troop during the summer as he no longer attended Court of Honour meetings after that. He would have been 15 at that point and it is not clear why he should resign at that stage considering his obvious enthusiasm for Scouting. One possibility is that the family moved away from Greenock. Alternatively, Graham might have moved to a different school away from Greenock. Unfortunately, it is not known what he did after leaving the troop.
There are several photographs on the website that include Graham White such as Cub photographs taken in 1949, troop and patrol photographs taken in 1952, photos of teams entered by the 70th for various competitions in 1952 and 1953, the troop photograph of 1953, and the camps at Invereck in 1954 and 1955.
Whitefield, Jim
It is believed that James Whitefield was born in Gourock during 1938. However, his address has not been identified and it is not known what employment his parents were involved in. It is likely that he attended Greenock Academy, but he was not in the Wolf Cubs. Therefore, he had no previous Scouting experience when he joined the 70th Troop in 1950. More details regarding Jim's Scouting experiences prior to 1954 are provided in the section covering 1947-1954.
By 1954, Jim was Patrol Leader of the Curlew Patrol where his Second was J. Finnie. However, he resigned at Easter 1954 and took on the role of an Assistant Scout Master. Unfortunately, the Troop log between March 1955-February 1957 is currently missing and so there is no way of knowing how long Jim stayed with the 70th as an ASM. It is also not known what
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he did on leaving Scouts and school. A number of photographs on the website show Jim Whitefield as a Scout such as the troop and patrol photos taken in May 1952, the Signalling Team B of 1952, and the troop photo of December 1953.
Whiteford, Andrew A.
It is believed that Andrew Whiteford’s full name was Andrew A. Whiteford and that he was born in Camlachie, Glasgow during 1937. The family must have moved to Rothesay as he joined the Rothesay Scout Group, possibly during 1948. The Whiteford family moved to Greenock from Rothesay either during late 1951 or early 1952 , but no other information is known about the family or where they stayed when Andy was in the 70th. Andy transferred to the 70th as a Second from the Rothesay Scout Troop and eventually became Troop Leader in 1953, before completing his Queen's Scout Badge at the end of the year. Further details of his Scouting experience prior to 1954 are provided in the section covering 1947-1954. Andrew resigned as Troop Leader in June 1954 to become an Acting Assistant Scout Master and Troop Quartermaster. By that time, he would have been about 17.
Andrew actually received his certificate for the Queen’s Scout Badge in June 1954. The delay was due to the fact that the new Chief Scout, Lord Rowallan, was visiting Greenock that month, and would make the presentation. Five 70th Scouts received their certificate on that occasion - the only known occasion of 70th Scouts receiving the Queen’s Scout Certificate from a Chief Scout. The event was photographed and reported in a couple of newspapers. However, one of the journalists wrote a rather objectionable piece which poked fun at Andy’s rather battered looking Scout hat. That may well have caused Andy a bit of embarrassment, which he certainly did not deserve. In hindsight, the article did more to demean the reporter for trying to get cheap laughs.
When Andy was still Troop Leader, Andy he acted as Quartermaster at the Invereck Easter Camp of 1954 and also assisted Brian Hodgson in running the camp. For example, on some of the days. Andy and Douglas Brown went into Strone to collect stores and settle accounts. , then on the Saturday they went to pay and fetch the milk. Andy and Bob Miller also kept the two youngest Scouts in camp occupied with a game of Football Whist when the Scouts were confined to tents because of bad weather. On the penultimate day, Andy helped Brian Hodgson lay on a birthday feast to celebrate Douglas Brown’s birthday. Finally, on the last day, Brian Hodgson and Andy had to make sure that everyone was up bright and early at 6 am.. Andy was also on the leader team at the 70th’s Easter Camp at Invereck during April 1955. He also ran campfires on Friday nights and, on one occasion, Andy performed a song along with Douglas Brown, Bob Miller and Brian Hodgson.
When he resigned as Troop Leader and Patrol Leader of the Seal Patrol at the beginning of June 1954, Andy joined David Slater as an Acting ASM, soon to be joined by Douglas Brown and Bob Miller at the beginning of September 1954. During his time as an Acting ASM/ASM, Andy had various responsibilities, which included helping out at Troop nights and supporting various activities. For example, he was present to support a whist drive that had been organized by the PLs during December 1954. With respect to troop nights, it is clear that Andy became the accepted Campfire leader and there was a discussion at the Court of Honour about introducing new songs, which Andy agreed to look in to.
The Patrol Logs of the period referr to Andy on a number of occasions. For example, in January 1955, he gave a talk to the troop on mapping, then in June 1955 he refereed a game of football in McAuley’s field during an outdoor troop meeting. The Scribe wrote, “Our patrol was defeated 1-0 by the Seal Patrol, but this was not surprising since the referee was one PL of the Seal Patrol which made him very unbiased. Surprisingly enough, the Seals went on to win”. As stated above, Andy resigned as PL of the Seal Patrol the previous year, but Scouts clearly have long memories. The same log book also provided instances of Andy carrying out inspection at the start of the meeting, running games, testing Scouts and taking campfires throughout 1955.
It is believed that Andrew resigned from the 70th at the end of 1955 to join the 1st Renfrewshire Scout Troop (along with Douglas Brown). Andy and Douglas brought a small number of 1st Renfrewshire Scouts to take part in a very wet 70th summer camp at Tarbert during 1956, and there were a number of weekend camps that involved Scouts from both troops.
Andy also maintained an interest in the 70th. He was present on Sunday 19th October 1958 when the group paraded to Finnart Church to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the 70th. He also volunteered to act as a ‘detective’ at a 70th jumble sale held during 6th December 1958.
Photographs of Andrew Whiteford as a Scout include photographs taken of the troop and the patrols during May 1952, the Guard of Honour at Victor Clark’s wedding in December 1952, the troop photo taken in December 1953, Easter Camp 1954 and the presentation of Queen Scouts Certificates in 1954. However, there are no photographs of him as an ASM.
Whiteford, Sandy (1939-2010)
Sandy Whiteford was Andy Whiteford’s younger brother. It is believed that his full name was Alexander Henry Whiteford and that he was born in Camlachie, Glasgow in 1939. At some point, the family moved to Rothesay. No information is known about what Sandy’s parents did for employment or when they moved to Greenock/Gourock, although this might have been late 1951 or early 1952. It is also not known where they lived in the local area or whether Sandy attended Greenock Academy.
As far as Scouting is concerned, it is reasonable to assume that Sandy started Scouting in Rothesay and it is estimated that he joined the troop there in 1950. Sandy is first mentioned in the 70th records during May 1952 as a member of the Seal patrol run by his brother in May 1952. his brother. In September 1952, the patrols were
reshuffled, resulting in Sandy joining the Fox Patrol with Alistair Duncan as his PL. Less than a year later, Sandy was promoted to PL of the Seagull Patrol during May 1953 with Neill Cook as his Second. The 70th’s Coronation Brochure for 1953 stated that, “Sandy took a jump almost unknown in Scouting - from ordinary Scout to patrol leader. He has proved his capabilities however by leading a small in stature patrol into second place in the Patrol Champions of the Year competition. Service three years.”
In May 1954, there was a reorganization of patrols which resulted in Sandy becoming PL of the Falcon patrol, with A. Shearer as his Second. In October 1955, Sandy was appointed Troop Leader at the age of 16. There is some circumstantial evidence that he resigned as Patrol leader of the Falcon at that point, but this needs to be confirmed. As Troop Leader, Sandy supported the work of the other leaders. For example, in November 1955 he helped Bob Miller run a stunt that involved the construction of a tripod, before demonstrating to the patrols how it should be done. Sandy eventually resigned as troop leader during October 1957 (presumably once he became 18), but remained in the troop as an ASM.
As regards his progress through the Scout Training Scheme, it is not known when Sandy passed his Tenderfoot and Second Class Badges, but he completed his First Class Badge in December 1953 - the same evening that his brother Andy was presented with his Queen’s Scout Badge. In January 1954, Sandy gained his Scout Cords and was one of the very few 70th Scouts to be mentioned in the weekly publication ‘The Scout’ for gaining his 1st Class Badge and Scout Cords. Sandy then went on to gain his Queen’s Scout Badge and received his certificate from the Chief Scout Lord Rowallan in June 1954 at the same time as his brother Andy. Douglas Brown, I. McFarlane and Bob Miller also received their certificates from the Chief Scout and this is the only known occurrence of 70th Scouts receiving any sort of award from a Chief Scout.
It is not known how many proficiency badges Sandy gained. However, he certainly gained the Missioner, Starman, Jobman and Swimmer Badges. The last of these badges made a bit of a ‘splash’ as it made ‘headline’ news in an August edition (1953) of the newspaper ‘The Buteman’, where it was written, “On Monday, Patrol Leader Sandy Whiteford of Seagull patrol, 70th Renfrewshire Boy Scouts passed the tests for the Swimmers Badge. Sandy, formerly resident in Rothesay, is now a member of this mainland troop and combined his test with his holiday swim.” The Buteman was published weekly from December 1854 until June 2019, when it finally stopped production.
It is impossible to identify all the camps, hikes and outdoor activities that Sandy may have been involved in as most of these went unrecorded in the various logs of the period. However, it is known that Sandy attended a weekend camp to Invereck in March 1954 to check it out for a forthcoming Easter camp the following month. Sandy also attended that Easter Camp, where he was in a patrol run by Ian Macfarlane. However, this was capped by his selection to attend the 1954 Blair Atholl Jamborette along with Robert Miller and Graham White. This might have been one achievement where Sandy ‘trumped’ his brother.
During the Ian Blake era, Sandy was an ever-present figure at camps as PL, TL or ASM. For example, he was present at the summer camps to Inveraray (1955), Pitlochry (1957), Benderloch (1958) and Tarbert (1959) as well as the Easter camps to Invereck (1955), Roseneath (1957), and Blairmore (1958, 1959, 1960). There was also a very wet summer to Tarbert in 1956, and it is likely that an Easter Camp also took place that year. However, 70th logs covering that period are missing and details of who attended are not known.
At the Troop’s Easter Camp to Invereck during 1955, Sandy was PL of a Peewit patrol. During the camp, Sandy (along with Billy McEwing, Alastair Shearer, Ian McKenzie and Neville Mort) built a raft called the ‘Basin’ – so called because that represented the initials of the builders’ Christian names. The raft was duly launched into the River Echaig and given its trials. According to the camp report, “All those who dared to go on it had to swim back.”
At the 1958 Easter camp, Sandy and Jim Harvey laid a trail in the forest for those Scouts who wanted to pass tracking. It was also recorded that Sandy went round the tents dragging Scouts out of their sleeping bags on Saturday 4th April. Sandy was on the leader team at the Benderloch Summer Camp in 1958 (along with J.R. Blake, and Jim Harvey). During that camp, Sandy shot a rabbit which was eaten at the campfire. It is likely that this was also the camp when Sandy’s aim proved a little awry, leading to a hole in the Bell tent. The Court of Honour records for September 1958 reveal that Sandy agreed to pay “for the damage done by his bullet to the Scouters Bell”. Finally, Sandy and Douglas Brown spent a weekend at the Tarbert camp having ridden up by motor bike (in the case of Sandy) and scooter (in the case of Douglas).
Regarding competitions, Sandy was a member of the successful 70th football team that lifted the Provost Macmillan’s football shield in September 1952, and he continued to play for the team during the 1952-53 session. Sandy was also successful at the Scouts Sports Meeting held at Cappielow in June 1953 as part of a ‘Scout Week’ that was organized to celebrate the Coronation. He came second in the sack race and second in the obstacle race, both of which were aimed at Scouts aged 11-14. Both Sandy and his brother were in the 70th team that won the District Ambulance Competition in 1953.
With respect to competitions within the 70th, Sandy came second in the annual competition for the GSM’s Cup in February 1954. That year the competition took the form of a signalling competition (semaphore). Douglas Brown came first with Sandy a very close second – there were only 0.25 marks between them. Sandy’s skills in signaling also marked him out as an obvious candidate for the team of Scouts that put on a signaling display at a special social evening on the 8th October 1954 to celebrate the 70ths 21st anniversary.
Although very little has been recorded regarding Scouts Owns and Church parades, it is relatively safe to assume that Sandy and Andy attended most if not all of these. An oblique reference to a church parade was made in the Fox Patrol log for the Friday night of the 13th of April 1956, which stated that Sandy, Jim Harvey and William Harkness went away ‘to see about the parade’. This would almost certainly have been the annual District St George’s Day parade which all Greenock Groups were expected to attend. The entry implies that Sandy was a member of the troop’s colour party made up of two flag bearers and an escort. On the Friday night before each district parade, colour parties were asked to attend a rehearsal to ensure that the presentation and collection of the colours in the church itself would proceed smoothly on the day. Further confirmation of Sandy’s role as a flag bearer is provided in a photograph taken of the troop lining up for a parade outside Finnart Church in June 1955. This shows that Sandy was flagbearer for the Union Flag.
Like his brother, Sandy could be relied upon to volunteer for ‘extra duties’. For example, both Sandy and Andy represented the 70th at a church service held in Finnart Church during the summer of 1953 to dedicate new colours for the Finnart School company of Girl Guides. Following that, in December 1953, Sandy helped out at the Junior Xmas Party for younger Scouts. He also helped at a Jumble Sale in late 1955, where he and Neill Cook manned a stall selling clothes and rags. Sandy and his brother also went the extra mile when it came to Bob-a-Job week. For example, in 1953, Sandy and Andy were the Scouts who raised the most money that year. Each of them both earned about £3.14 which would be the equivalent of £107 in 2021 terms.
Not much is known regarding the period March 1955 to February 1957 due to the missing Troop Log covering that interval. However, a Fox Patrol Log described an outdoor Friday night meeting in June 1955, when the troop went up to play football in McAuley’s field, only to find that nobody had a football. A lengthy discussion between the ‘big five” (the PLs) led to the decision to play cricket instead and so Scouts were ‘sent home for equipment’. Sides were then picked by Sandy Whiteford and Graham White, with about 20 Scouts on each side. The patrol log also reveals that Sandy was one of four 70th Scouts who spent the Friday night of 24th of May 1957 camping in Rankin Park to guard a Scouting display that the troop had set up as part of a larger District Scout Display.
Court of Honour Records also provide some comments relating to Sandy. For example, during 1956, TL Sandy Whiteford suggested a Halloween party for the Scouts. Another entry reveals that Sandy was a rugby player as he missed a Court of Honour meeting in October 1957 due to a fracture incurred during a game. On another occasion in May 1957, it was reported that Sandy and Jim Harvey started making a ‘rack’ for camp gear. It was not stated where this was constructed, but it is known that dexion racks were used to store Troop equipment in the Church kitchen during the early 1960s.
In January 1959, Sandy was a member of a very healthy looking leader team consisting of Scoutmaster J. R. Blake and ASMs Ian McFarlane, Bob Millar, Jim Harvey, Alistair Shearer and Sandy himself. The troop log also reported that Sandy taught Scouts how to do splicing during March 1959 – one of the more challenging aspects of the First Class Badge. The last reference to Sandy in the surviving records reveal that he was present at the Farewell Social held in December 1959 for J.R. Blake and his family as they were leaving for Trinidad for three years. However, there is also a photograph showing that he was present at the Blairmore Easter camp held in 1960. It is not known exactly when finally resigned from the troop, but the evidence suggests that it was at some point during 1960. It is not known what he did after that in terms of Scouting or career. He died in Inverclyde in 2010 at the age of 71.
Sandy Whiteford is present in troop and patrol photographs taken in May 1952 & Dec 1953, the ambulance and football teams for 1953, Invereck 1954, Easter Camps 1954, 1955, 1957, 1959 & 1960, summer camp 1955, a Scout parade in 1955 and the farewell social to J.R. Blake in Dec 1959.
Whiteford, Mrs.
Mrs Whiteford is mentioned in the troop log and it is assumed that this was the mother of Sandy and Andrew Whiteford. She was present at the Social evening held on the 8th October 1954 to celebrate the 21st anniversary of the 70th. One of the events on the programme was a session of 20 questions. The panel consisted of DC JJ Swan, Cub Mistress McBride, Mrs Whiteford and Mr. Lee.
Zimmerman, Hannelore
Miss H Zimmerman married Victor Clark in 1952. Further information is provided in the section covering 1947-1954. The last mention of Hannelore is of her accompanying Victor and several 70th Scouts to a performance of Puss n Boots in Glasgow on the 8th January 1954.